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In reality, theres no better fighter than Cotto at 154

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
    It has nothing to do with balls. You're just sucking Cotto's ass cuz' Packy pulled a fast one on him w/ a bull**** catchweight and you'll be forever grateful to him for making him look better than he is.

    You'e faux diplomacy is poorly executed and totally transparent.

    Die.

    The fact that you think Cotto is better than Martinez proves you've only been watching boxing since Packy has been fighting.

    You know nothing. Take your f@ggot ribbons and shove em' up your own ass coward.


    ive been watching cotto since he was fighting at 140, and most posters here know that i like cotto as much as i like pac even before they fought. youre an idiot

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    • #42
      Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
      Sergio Martinez, Paul Williams and Sergiy Dzinziruk.

      All better fighters in my opinion. And I like Cotto, I really do...
      Paul Williams is a well condition amateur, while Martinez is a poorly conditioned pro

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
        It has nothing to do with balls. You're just sucking Cotto's ass cuz' Packy pulled a fast one on him w/ a bull**** catchweight and you'll be forever grateful to him for making him look better than he is.

        You'e faux diplomacy is poorly executed and totally transparent.

        Die.

        The fact that you think Cotto is better than Martinez proves you've only been watching boxing since Packy has been fighting.

        You know nothing. Take your f@ggot ribbons and shove em' up your own ass coward.
        this internet tough guy has gave me red and called me a coward. im scared

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        • #44
          Originally posted by ILLuminato View Post
          Paul Williams is a well condition amateur, while Martinez is a poorly conditioned pro
          Er based on what lol.. guy was a cyclist and footballer.. you saying this cus he had trouble vs the windmill Paul Williams? he took that fight at short notice and wasn't at his peak most likely.. he would beat PW easily if he gets a full camp in preparing for him. I mean this guy went 12 and won the majority of rounds vs Pavlik a huge guy.. i didn't see any condition problems there.

          I was actually happy Cotto got the win but his fans are going way ****ing overboard.. he looked ok at best vs a limited opponent who got injured.

          Cotto loses to Martinez, Williams, Margarito, Angulo (maybe) at 154.. i mean how is he the best fighter at 154 lol?? TS is tripping.. so his resume is good.. whats his resume at 154 like fella? to even dare suggest that he is the best fighter...

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Black Magic View Post
            all of this because Cotto beat youri Foreman I swear people never learn
            Exactly man, he only beat Yuri Foreman. It's strange how every after Cotto-Foreman is going on about how Foreman is rubbish and how Cotto is great. Paul Williams would eat Cotto alive, and his resume is better. I think people are forgetting that Foreman is a light puncher, Cotto wasn't tested by a high pressure fighter who can hit and so we shouldn't be making any assumptions about where he's at at 154

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            • #46
              yeah, right, not

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              • #47
                Originally posted by JM1 View Post
                yep, hes better than martinez and way better than paul williams. people may argue that martinez is the more skilled fighter, granting but not accepting, cotto is still better overall and cotto's resume ****s on martinez

                with that said, i dont think miguel should continue his campaign at 154. he may lose his fights in that division only because of the size advantage his opponents will have over him

                Congratulations Miguel!
                So your saying he's the best at 154, but shouldn't fight at 154 because he may lose due to his size?

                huh?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by ILLuminato View Post
                  Paul Williams is a well condition amateur, while Martinez is a poorly conditioned pro
                  Yet he is a two or 3 time world champion?

                  Williams gives Cotto hell if they fight. Not saying Miguel couldnt win

                  But it would be really hard

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                  • #49
                    Sergio, Pwill, Kirkland and Angulo are as good or better in some cases than Cotto at 154.

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                    • #50
                      I don't see him as the best in the division now, he only has one win thus far and while he performed greatly it was very narrow focused. It was really apparent that Cotto was concentrating on footwork, balance and his jab. Yes, he was cutting off the ring and throwing hooks/uppercuts, but you could feel that he was really keeping his mindset on those things. That being said, with more time and another fight under Ste***** tutelage I can see him beating everyone in the division.

                      I could see him unifying the titles in fact. I saw someone mention that Cotto's speed isn't what it used to be, I'm not sure why people say that. He was obviously fast enough to keep up with Foreman, and while he doesn't have blinding handspeed he is very smooth, glides across the ring and can jump on you very quickly. It isn't that Cotto has blinding handspeed or can run away in a hurry, he uses his speed to pounce on you with a punch of heavy hard punches, and work his way in and out with a jab. Yea, he isn't the fastest but compare any of the current 154 pounders to Pacman, Mayweather there is no one even close. Then with guys like Judah, Paulie and Mosley there still isn't a 154 pounder on par with those guys as well and Cotto kept up with them just fine.My point is at 154 Cotto may have lost advantages in height, but he's overcome a lot of what he lacks in speed and I think it'll be his best asset at 154.

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