Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?

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  • badass316
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    #71
    Originally posted by LoneBum
    yeah hes really a great champ all heart no ego
    Educate me when his ego prevented any of his past "big" fights from happening. Don't worry, I'll wait.

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    • TheManniePhresh
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      #72
      they both had a legit claim in negotiations as to whom was the bigger draw the first time around. they broke off negotiations to see who makes more money. for gods sake acknowledge the ****ing fact that floyd made more than pac. NOBODY made him choose clottey the world breaker lmfao. NOBODY!!! who generated more money when they couldn't settle financial negotiations for this fight? were talkin money here. if you cant acknowledge the facts and answer these simple questions im done with you.

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        #73
        Cotto is a great champ all heart no ego. If your arguing that fact please dont talk to me anymore.

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          #74
          Originally posted by LoneBum
          they both had a legit claim in negotiations as to whom was the bigger draw the first time around. they broke off negotiations to see who makes more money. for gods sake acknowledge the ****ing fact that floyd made more than pac. NOBODY made him choose clottey the world breaker lmfao. NOBODY!!! who generated more money when they couldn't settle financial negotiations for this fight? were talkin money here. if you cant acknowledge the facts and answer these simple questions im done with you.
          thats not what happened. manny took the clottey fight cuz he was the best opponent available at ww.

          the mosley fight fell into floyd's lap.

          it had nothing to do with a pissing contest to see who would earn more. every boxing fan and their mama knew clottey couldnt draw sht.

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            #75
            So pacquiao jumping the gun on a pissing contest is floyds fault? NOBODY made pac choose clottey. NOBODY! NOBODY forced his hand.

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              #76
              Originally posted by LoneBum
              So pacquiao jumping the gun on a pissing contest is floyds fault? NOBODY made pac choose clottey. NOBODY! NOBODY forced his hand.
              jumped the gun? they'd probably still be negotiating.
              manny's a fighter and he acts like one.
              at some point you gotta move on and do what you do, which in manny's case is continue to take fights, regardless of the risk.
              same situation here, if floyd digs in his heels, manny will move on while floyd will talk about taking time off.

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                #77
                Originally posted by LoneBum
                they both had a legit claim in negotiations as to whom was the bigger draw the first time around. they broke off negotiations to see who makes more money. for gods sake acknowledge the ****ing fact that floyd made more than pac. NOBODY made him choose clottey the world breaker lmfao. NOBODY!!! who generated more money when they couldn't settle financial negotiations for this fight? were talkin money here. if you cant acknowledge the facts and answer these simple questions im done with you.
                First off, how the F do you know HE chose Clottey? You're insinuating that Pacquiao himself handpicked Clottey when in fact you, nor I, or anyone else for that matter (with the exception of the Top Rank people) don't know who chose Clottey in the first place. And at the time, it was a good choice, considering Clottey was considered one of the best at the WW division. Did we know before the fight that he was going to fight like a scared 3 year old girl? No.

                And yes, Floyd did make more against Mosley than Pacquiao made against Cotto. So what? The difference isn't big enough to demand anything significantly different from their first initial offers. If Mosley/May sold 2+ mil like GBP and MP were spewing then I wouldn't have a problem with Floyd having the leverage in the negotiations. But guess what, his fight didn't do nearly as big as they said it would. It barely outsold Pacquiao/Cotto and May/Mosley was definitely promoted MORE (they even had the SB to announce their fight... the f'n SUPERBOWL!). So yes, if we're talking purely straight numbers, Floyd outsold Pac. But was it enough to tip the scales to where he gets to make new outlandish demands? **** No.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by LoneBum
                  So pacquiao jumping the gun on a pissing contest is floyds fault? NOBODY made pac choose clottey. NOBODY! NOBODY forced his hand.
                  Uhhh... actually Floyd forced Arum's hand. When Floyd wouldn't compromise from the 14 day cutoff (likewise with Pacquiao not budging from 24), the fight fell through. Arum (at the time) probably felt that Mayweather would be left high and dry (since Mosley was occupied with Berto) so he immediately pulled the trigger on Pac/Clottey.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Siggy
                    jumped the gun? they'd probably still be negotiating.
                    manny's a fighter and he acts like one.
                    at some point you gotta move on and do what you do, which in manny's case is continue to take fights, regardless of the risk.
                    same situation here, if floyd digs in his heels, manny will move on while floyd will talk about taking time off.
                    I'm actually very interested to see what Mayweather would do if the negotiations part II falls through. The only thing I can see him doing is retiring to be honest. And if he does fight, he ain't finding a dance partner that's going to outsell the next pacquiao fight, whether it be against Margs or Cotto.

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                      #80
                      what im amazed you ****ers dont see is that Manny Pacquiao is in fact Manny Pacquiao. 3 time fighter of the year fighter of the decade 1st fighter to EVER win 7 world titles in 7 weight divisions. If he doesnt have a say in who he fights thats his dumbass fault. he has enough clout to deny blood testing he can ****ing choose who he fights. if he lets puppeteers decide his future whos fault is that? HE HAD A CHOICE.

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