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  • #21
    Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
    He completely ignored the fighter's safety first and foremost. If the ref can only stop the fight, he should still use the doctor's judgement to help make a decision.
    Arthur Mercante Jr. felt that Foreman was in good enough shape to continue. And i absolutely agree with him. He had not been taking a beating and Foreman was fighting for his career, his reputation, and his pride.

    If the fight had been stopped with the towel, it would have been incredibly anti-climactic and i don't see how Yuri Foreman would be given many more oppurtunties.

    BUT, Mercante made the decision to let him fight on and Foreman took advantage. He didnt win the fight but he won a lot of fans.

    Not to mention the fact that Foreman was the Champion... not his trainer. The Champ should get to decide whether or not he wants to fight on. I give everyone involved a lot of praise.

    If Foremans trainer truly believed Foreman's health was in danger he could have refused to leave the ring. But as it stands, he was one of the first ones out.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Precision View Post
      I disagree with you Warp.

      Foreman winning didn't happen so that shouldn't worry you. Foreman's corner may of given up but Foreman didn't and under the rules it was the ref's decision and he made up his mind quickly.

      Yuri's knee was clearly hurt but he told Mercante multiple times that he wanted to continue. It was Foreman's decision.

      Mercante i'm sure at one point asked for a doctor but no one showed.

      The trainer being in the ring shouldn't be a automatic DQ imo especially based on the circumstances. (if thats in the rule book it should be removed).

      Everyone thought the fight was over so you can't blame his corner for entering the ring.

      Mercante did a good job.
      Sometimes a fighter's safety should be looked at moreso then the fighter's decision to fight. I mean he gave him the chance to fight on, but Foreman went down again off his knee. He could barely stay up on his own. Giving him a chance is debatable and I see your point there, even though I disagree, but Foreman going down because of his knee time after time shows he was in no condition to fight.

      I'm sure everyone who says they wouldn't be upset if Foreman won, bitched at Martinez-Cintron. Kind of a similar situation where the ref ****ed up. Only this time a terrible scoring decision wasn't made and Foreman didn't actually get KOd.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
        His knee was so ****ed up...he shouldn't have been fighting.
        he was in pain no doubt about it but if he would have quit or said he couldnt fight anymore (quitting) people would have bashed him for it...even if it was a legitimate injury which it obviously was...he still would have gotten heat from it...what Yuri did was amazing. He stood in there after the injury and tried to **** wit Cotto but in the end...that liver shot sealed the deal. Yuri still one hell of a boxer in my book.
        Last edited by BlazeDRicaN; 06-06-2010, 02:56 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
          Honestly, you're telling me if Yuri cameback and KOd Cotto you wouldn't be crying that Foreman's corner gave up and how Cotto should have won?
          Only the ref can stop the fight.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Kball15 View Post
            Arthur Mercante Jr. felt that Foreman was in good enough shape to continue. And i absolutely agree with him. He had not been taking a beating and Foreman was fighting for his career, his reputation, and his pride.

            If the fight had been stopped with the towel, it would have been incredibly anti-climactic and i don't see how Yuri Foreman would be given many more oppurtunties.

            BUT, Mercante made the decision to let him fight on and Foreman took advantage. He didnt win the fight but he won a lot of fans.

            Not to mention the fact that Foreman was the Champion... not his trainer. The Champ should get to decide whether or not he wants to fight on. I give everyone involved a lot of praise.

            If Foremans trainer truly believed Foreman's health was in danger he could have refused to leave the ring. But as it stands, he was one of the first ones out.
            I see your points Kball and I'm getting what you're saying, but even if given a second chance, Foreman showed he was in no condition to continue.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
              Nor should he have. Clottey literally jumped on Cotto and Cotto shed him.

              Cotto was pushing Foreman off of him last night as well, difference was that Foreman was leaning into Miguel, not jumping on to him.
              You are not allowed to flip your opponent over to get him off you.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BlazeDRicaN View Post
                he was in pain no doubt about it but if he would have quit or said he couldnt fight anymore (quitting) people would have bashed him for it...even if it was a legimate injury which it obviously was...he still would have gotten heat from it...what Yuri did was amazing. He stood in there after the injury and tried to **** wit Cotto but in the end...that liver shot sealed the deal. Yuri still one hell of a boxer in my book.
                Oh I agree with this. Yuri showed a ton of heart and it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I picked Foreman to win, but he was in over his head and he had a legit injury.

                This is boxingscene, everyone gets ****. The corner would have made the right decision.

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                • #28
                  If Foreman had come back to win it would've proven that he made the right decision.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                    If Foreman had come back to win it would've proven that he made the right decision.
                    I guess, but you'd have even more controversy. This place would be a **** storm.

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                    • #30
                      I liked what he did. He followed the rules and gave the fans some more fight

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