Comments Thread For: Mayweather's Side is Silent on Pacquiao's New Test Stance

[jbpanama]

Since U know about LAW U should know that
THE GREATEST AVOIDER OF ALL TIME is now

AVOIDING PROCESS SERVERS, maybe U can
give us words of WISDOM as to WHY???

WHY should Pac take any tests not SANCTIONED
by the NSAC ???
Also wondering what GREAT FIGHTER ever used
such NONSENSE to AVOID getting his ASS kicked???

Why do we have to go back 9 yrs to find an opponent
that wasen't OVER the HILL or UNDERSIZED??

[jbpanama]

Stop hiding Gayweather, we haven't heard anything from you. Why can't you give us more reason to hate you? We're tired of waiting, we can't live without talking about you.

BOY, on VACATION YEAH, it's a good way
TO AVOID the Process SERVERS!!!!

[jbpanama]

He's only required to breathe. So again...what do you mean by "more than fair"?

Fair??? That would be that
BOY, the MASTER of AVOIDANCE,
STOP PUNKING OUT, and step up
to the PLATE!!!!

And take the ASS KICKING he's been
AVOIDING so LONG!!!

[Ryannn]

Generally speaking, I would be inclined to agree with you on this. But if Floyd is agreeing to items or request by Manny, that are not required by the commission (i.e 10 mill dollar weight penalty). Then why should Manny not agree to some items not required by the commission? Like the old saying goes, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. Both of these teams and fighters will need to compromise/negotiate to make the fight. But Manny has put himself in a difficult position to negotiate from. You can't say "Floyd you are the boxing commission, we don't have to agree to anything you want that is outside of the commissions rules, Oh by the way we would like a enforce our own monetary penalty, if you don't make weight". Difficult perspective to swallow, because Floyd has already agreed to an item that Manny proposed that was not exactly in the rule book.

the 10 million dollar penalty, although not exactly in the rule book, is justified IMO. this is no ordinary fight, and floyd has come out over the initially agreed limit over a smaller fighter before. a few hundred grand won't stop him to go over the weight if he wants to (at least how team pac might see it)

the tests, on the other hand has no basis, except for unfounded accusations. for some reason, he is uncomfortable with the blood thing, psychological or otherwise, which is perfectly fine because it is not required of him to do his job. he might see it as why should he do something he is uncomfortable with, when he is at the top of the sport, and the guy who was asking of him has been throwing **** at his legacy, and him agreeing to it would give the other guy $40 million?

not to mention, the test they were supposed to take won't even assure any of them are not cheating.

just to be clear, i don't mind manny taking the ****** tests. just looking at things from his point of view.

[ncpitbull]

the 10 million dollar penalty, although not exactly in the rule book, is justified IMO. this is no ordinary fight, and floyd has come out over the initially agreed limit over a smaller fighter before. a few hundred grand won't stop him to go over the weight if he wants to (at least how team pac might see it)

the tests, on the other hand has no basis, except for unfounded accusations. for some reason, he is uncomfortable with the blood thing, psychological or otherwise, which is perfectly fine because it is not required of him to do his job. he might see it as why should he do something he is uncomfortable with, when he is at the top of the sport, and the guy who was asking of him has been throwing **** at his legacy, and him agreeing to it would give the other guy $40 million?

not to mention, the test they were supposed to take won't even assure any of them are not cheating.

just to be clear, i don't mind manny taking the ****** tests. just looking at things from his point of view.

The 10 million dollar penalty is not enforced by the boxing commission at all, not even close. Floyd Mayweather has never weighed in over the welterweight limit, (I am not including the Marquez fight due to the catchweight). So, regardless of weather or not you or I agree with it, your original statement was that Manny should not have to agree to anything not enforced by the boxing commission, true statement. But he and his team can not then turn around and expect to enforce rules of their own that are not enforced by the commission. There is a large slice of hypocricy there. I am not concerned with how touchy feely he or Mayweather get over the negotiations of this fight. If either fighter claims to be the best P4P fighter on the planet, or in the class of Ali, Louis, leaonard, Sugar ray etc........Then make this fight and get your ass your in the ring and fight. Combat what makes your feel uncomfortable later, deal with your feelings in a couseling session. That may sound cold, but this is the sport of boxing and as a former fighter and long time fan that is just how I feel.

[naughtyboy100]

Its kind of funny to me!

First, let me start out by saying I like both fighters because im a true boxing fan and in my opinion how could one not appreciate the gifts of both these great fighters. Manny Pacquiao has accomplished a great deal in his boxing career and should be proud of those accomplishments. Floyd Mayweather in my opinion is an unmatched talent in the sport of boxing. I think it is ashame how one is revered and the other is so disrespected by many as well as the media for all of his accomplishments. In my opinion, Manny Pacpuiao may just be the only fighter in boxing with the physical skill set to beat Floyd Mayweather but I honestly feel that if they ever met in the ring He also would get outclassed and out boxed by the greatest technical boxer the sport has ever known. Notice, I said Technical boxer not Boxer, that would be Sugar Ray Robinson! Floyd Mayweather in my opinion is not afraid of Manny Pacquiao but curious as to how far the Pacman has come in such a short time. Floyd Mayweather finds it hard to understand how a fighter who just 2 years ago was in a life or death struggle fighting a Light Weight fighter (Juan Manuel Marquez) and is now dominating Welter Weight fighters (Cotto and Clottey). To me, I understand were Mayweather is coming from because the rise was so dramatic and the kind of thing that should make anyone wonder is this really real. Im not saying that Pacquiao has did anything illegal or wrong or cheated in anyway but ask yourself this question. What would you think if Andre Ward of the Supersix Supermiddle Weight Tournament struggled to beat his next opponent Allen Green but then moved up to Light Heavy Weight and knocked out Chad Dawson then moved up again bypassing the Cruiser Weight division and is now dominating David Haye or one of the Klitschko brothers in the Heavy Weight Division. This is the magnitude of what Pacquiao is now doing! In 2008 he was fighting marquez at 126lbs and by November 2009 he is beating up and dominating Cotto at 145lbs and Clottey at a full 147lbs. This seems a little funny to me but hey he just might be just that great. Like I stated earlier I appreciate him just the same and for boxings sake I hope and pray that its real just look at Baseball if u get my drift!

[Ryannn]

The 10 million dollar penalty is not enforced by the boxing commission at all, not even close. Floyd Mayweather has never weighed in over the welterweight limit, (I am not including the Marquez fight due to the catchweight). So, regardless of weather or not you or I agree with it, your original statement was that Manny should not have to agree to anything not enforced by the boxing commission, true statement. But he and his team can not then turn around and expect to enforce rules of their own that are not enforced by the commission. There is a large slice of hypocricy there. I am not concerned with how touchy feely he or Mayweather get over the negotiations of this fight. If either fighter claims to be the best P4P fighter on the planet, or in the class of Ali, Louis, leaonard, Sugar ray etc........Then make this fight and get your ass your in the ring and fight. Combat what makes your feel uncomfortable later, deal with your feelings in a couseling session. That may sound cold, but this is the sport of boxing and as a former fighter and long time fan that is just how I feel.

the point is, he did come out in higher weight which was initially agreed upon. and the 10 million dollar penalty was not an issue, so while dwell upon it? floyd agreed to it.. which is all well and good.

that is not enough justification for him or his fans to expect manny is gonna take a test that is:

1. He is uncomfortable with
2. Not required by any commission
3. Won't prove him clean, based on statements made by Conte
4. Only being imposed on him cause of accusations from mayweather's camp

i agree, fighters should just shut up and fight without these special rules, although i think the 10 million dollar weight penalty is more justified to ask for than the ****** tests that won't even prove manny is not cheating.

[chris123jack]

the 10 million dollar penalty, although not exactly in the rule book, is justified IMO. this is no ordinary fight, and floyd has come out over the initially agreed limit over a smaller fighter before. a few hundred grand won't stop him to go over the weight if he wants to (at least how team pac might see it)

the tests, on the other hand has no basis, except for unfounded accusations. for some reason, he is uncomfortable with the blood thing, psychological or otherwise, which is perfectly fine because it is not required of him to do his job. he might see it as why should he do something he is uncomfortable with, when he is at the top of the sport, and the guy who was asking of him has been throwing **** at his legacy, and him agreeing to it would give the other guy $40 million?

Technically speaking, floyd has NEVER came in above the agreed upon weight in ANY fight. Technically, manny has NEVER tested positive for PEDs, neither has shane mosley and we know what happened there. So both request by each fighter is unwarranted. Manny wanted a 10 million dollar penalty for coming in over weight because in a previously VOID contract said mayweather agreed to 144 pounds but when the OFFICIAL weigh-in happened the OFFICIAL contract said 147 pounds. Manny is doing things that no one in history have done, causing some questions. So each one of them had demands that wasnt required or enforced by the commission. And each one had their own reasons for doing so. One accepted the other's offer one didnt that is all. If floyd refused pac's stipulation I wouldnt say floyd was ducking pac and if pac said he wouldnt fight without it I wouldnt say pac was ducking floyd, and in this current situation I dont think one is ducking the other.

The people saying that 14 days is fair, floyd should accept are ****ing ******ED. The only thing that is fair to floyd is what he says is fair and he thinks 0 days is fair. The people that are blaming floyd really need to be blaming BALCO, NSAC, Roach, Ariza, Mosley, Toney, etc. You know the ****ing people that have either cheated the system or the people that were suppose to be keeping people from cheating that looked away as the system was being cheated.

Team Pacquiao shot themselves, they are the reason that 14 days is not "fair" anymore. If first you say as long as it is not the day of the fight I am fine, then a couple days before, then you say it can be no closer than 30 days, then 24 days not because you are trying to compromise but because video evidence is found that shows you were tested within 30 days with no complaint. Then floyd is like ****it maybe it really does weaken him, or I really want this money, bet my money it was the second one, I will compromise to 14 days since he says it takes him 3-5 days to recover. Manny's answer is **** YOU, basically saying I dont have to compromise to you I am the bigger star, I call the shots not you. I cant blame if he felt that way but, you and your team arent the only people that need to believe that. The people putting the money up need feel that way also but HBO didnt even believe that he could sale the fight with a 24/7 special. And once the new numbers came out, we saw who generated the most money. Which officially changed the terms of the last package of agreements and compromises. Because as everyone should know that star power means **** if it doesnt generate money.

So now if floyd agrees to the old demands, refuses the old demands or offers new demands, team pacquiao cant blame anyone but themselves. They took a gamble and bet all their chips on red and lost and now they have to accept the consequences. That doesnt mean they just have to lay down and take it, but they should know that this is a whole new ball game.

[Ryannn]

Technically speaking, floyd has NEVER came in above the agreed upon weight in ANY fight. Technically, manny has NEVER tested positive for PEDs, neither has shane mosley and we know what happened there. So both request by each fighter is unwarranted. Manny wanted a 10 million dollar penalty for coming in over weight because in a previously VOID contract said mayweather agreed to 144 pounds but when the OFFICIAL weigh-in happened the OFFICIAL contract said 147 pounds. Manny is doing things that no one in history have done, causing some questions. So each one of them had demands that wasnt required or enforced by the commission. And each one had their own reasons for doing so. One accepted the other's offer one didnt that is all. If floyd refused pac's stipulation I wouldnt say floyd was ducking pac and if pac said he wouldnt fight without it I wouldnt say pac was ducking floyd, and in this current situation I dont think one is ducking the other.

The people saying that 14 days is fair, floyd should accept are ****ing ******ED. The only thing that is fair to floyd is what he says is fair and he thinks 0 days is fair. The people that are blaming floyd really need to be blaming BALCO, NSAC, Roach, Ariza, Mosley, Toney, etc. You know the ****ing people that have either cheated the system or the people that were suppose to be keeping people from cheating that looked away as the system was being cheated.

Team Pacquiao shot themselves, they are the reason that 14 days is not "fair" anymore. If first you say as long as it is not the day of the fight I am fine, then a couple days before, then you say it can be no closer than 30 days, then 24 days not because you are trying to compromise but because video evidence is found that shows you were tested within 30 days with no complaint. Then floyd is like ****it maybe it really does weaken him, or I really want this money, bet my money it was the second one, I will compromise to 14 days since he says it takes him 3-5 days to recover. Manny's answer is **** YOU, basically saying I dont have to compromise to you I am the bigger star, I call the shots not you. I cant blame if he felt that way but, you and your team arent the only people that need to believe that. The people putting the money up need feel that way also but HBO didnt even believe that he could sale the fight with a 24/7 special. And once the new numbers came out, we saw who generated the most money. Which officially changed the terms of the last package of agreements and compromises. Because as everyone should know that star power means **** if it doesnt generate money.

So now if floyd agrees to the old demands, refuses the old demands or offers new demands, team pacquiao cant blame anyone but themselves. They took a gamble and bet all their chips on red and lost and now they have to accept the consequences. That doesnt mean they just have to lay down and take it, but they should know that this is a whole new ball game.

floyd agreed to a weight initially, was not able to make that limit, and changed the contract.

no matter how you spin it, he still didn't make the INITIAL agreed upon weight.

and don't act as if floyd is the one bending over here. agreeing to any stricter testing than what the commission allows is still above any rules, and manny isn't obligated to take it. same for floyd regarding the 10 million dollar penalty.

just compare the two stipulations. lets presume that:

The reason for manny asking for the extra weight penalty is because he thinks floyd may come overweight, which he already has against a much smaller figher.

the reason for floyd asking for the tests is because he suspects manny is cheating, based on jack-diddly-****.

which one is more justified?

[LeadUppercut]

floyd agreed to a weight initially, was not able to make that limit, and changed the contract.

no matter how you spin it, he still didn't make the INITIAL agreed upon weight.

and don't act as if floyd is the one bending over here. agreeing to any stricter testing than what the commission allows is still above any rules, and manny isn't obligated to take it. same for floyd regarding the 10 million dollar penalty.

just compare the two stipulations. lets presume that:

The reason for manny asking for the extra weight penalty is because he thinks floyd may come overweight, which he already has against a much smaller figher.

the reason for floyd asking for the tests is because he suspects manny is cheating, based on jack-diddly-****.

which one is more justified?

Who cares which one is more justified ?

Floyd AGREED to the 10 mil weight penalty.

Manny won't take the test.

Which one stonewalled the fight ?