Comments Thread For: Mayweather's Side is Silent on Pacquiao's New Test Stance

[Laborer]

Mayweather = scared of Pacquiao

silence = scared.

Not. How about: silence = enjoying after mosley win
silence = let Pac chase him for his poor Clottey performance
silence = private negotaition in progress

I could go on but 3 should be enough for you.

[LeadUppercut]

lol at that "off the table" ****.

Ummm.... it's not really that funny.

Forget the fact that Mayweather has actually publicly stated that ALL of his future fights would include WADA-style testing right up until the day of the fight.....

business negotiations work like this......

An offer was made, and that offer was rejected, which caused the negotiations to completely break down. Once the negotiations officially break down, THERE IS NO LONGER AN OFFER ON THE TABLE.

They have to start again now.

This is not funny at all.....
I stated weeks ago that Manny will not get 50% now.
May 2nd I think it was

It is a major problem, because Arum's a greedy ****.

[Ryannn]

Ummm.... it's not really that funny.

Forget the fact that Mayweather has actually publicly stated that ALL of his future fights would include WADA-style testing right up until the day of the fight.....

business negotiations work like this......

An offer was made, and that offer was rejected, which caused the negotiations to completely break down. Once the negotiations officially break down, THERE IS NO LONGER AN OFFER ON THE TABLE.

They gave to start again now.

This is not funny at all.....
I stated weeks ago that Manny will not get 50% now.
May 2nd I think it was

It is a major problem, because Arum's a greedy ****.

what wada style testing?

is floyd still subject to it now? cause it is supposed to be year-long, random testing.

cramming testing within 2 months which is supposed to be done in one year is not wada testing. its floyd testing.

[Reloaded]

you got it all wrong..

i think manny should take the tests he's gonna pass anyways. but you gotta look at his point of view.

floyd's family has been accusing him without proof.

he is being made to undergo stricter testing he is uncomfortable with, that is not required of him. only being required by his opponent.

im not surprised he told them to fuck off.

also, floyd and shane knows they would undergo testing for a couple of moths leading to the fight. what makes you so sure they haven't been juicing when they're out of competetion? wada has a protocol for out of competetion testing, yet they didn't go through with it. floyd and shane should still be subject to testing up to now if they truly agreed to the olympic style testing.

the flawed, easily beaten test has only been replaced by a random easily beaten test. that is not improvement imo

Your missing the whole point , its not about catching them its about deterring them from using anything , would you risk it knowing you would be be randomly blood tested at anytime , I spose they could say but Conte said you cant catch me ,,, look at the big picture buddy this is not not a little ego sparring match , you cannot turn back the clock so they can only be tested during the fights on period for now , thats all thats asked for , if you want to stand on moral grounds which you are , well its my opinion no pro athlete that earns the money these guys do should be able to say no to any form PEDS testing if a fellow competitor asked for it , especially combat sports more than any other ,,, there is moral overtones to this and I think its morally good for boxing for Manny to accept full random testing , I would expect from Floyd is roles were reversed .

[Ryannn]

Ummm.... it's not really that funny.

Forget the fact that Mayweather has actually publicly stated that ALL of his future fights would include WADA-style testing right up until the day of the fight.....

business negotiations work like this......

An offer was made, and that offer was rejected, which caused the negotiations to completely break down. Once the negotiations officially break down, THERE IS NO LONGER AN OFFER ON THE TABLE.

They gave to start again now.

This is not funny at all.....
I stated weeks ago that Manny will not get 50% now.
May 2nd I think it was

It is a major problem, because Arum's a greedy ****.

floyd was the one who proposed it in the first place, now that manny says ok, its not good enough?

[Ryannn]

Your missing the whole point , its not about catching them its about deterring them from using anything , would you risk it knowing you would be be randomly blood tested at anytime , I spose they could say but Conte said you cant catch me ,,, look at the big picture buddy this is not not a little ego sparring match , you cannot turn back the clock so they can only be tested during the fights on period for now , thats all thats asked for , if you want to stand on moral grounds which you are , well its my opinion no pro athlete that earns the money these guys do should be able to say no to any form PEDS testing if a fellow competitor asked for it , especially combat sports more than any other ,,, there is moral overtones to this and I think its morally good for boxing for Manny to accept full random testing , I would expect from Floyd is roles were reversed .

the testing floyd and shane took didn't prevent them from taking illegal substances when they are not training, something that is a major concern for athletic commissions. even wada has a protocol for it, which was not applied for their fight.

there is virtually no improvement from NSAC test to the floyd style test. both can still be beaten.

[dc3383]

Floyd is not arguing with fools right now; when they had the power they droppedthe ball now all roads lead to Floyd get used to it.

[Ryannn]

Floyd is not arguing with fools right now; when they had the power they droppedthe ball now all roads lead to Floyd get used to it.

and they say pacfans are bad..

****ing *****s..

[LeadUppercut]

This is getting ******ed.

I want the fight to be made.

I think Mayweather is a bit too technical for Pac, but the fight is amazing because Pac has one shot power.

That being said....a few..minor points of contention.

1. Calling Floyd Mayweather Jr's Camp "REFINED, QUIET, PROFESSIONAL, or any other even REMOTELY COMPLIMENTARY term" in regards to public statements (or lack thereof) is an insult to every reasonable boxing fan on this website. And it makes everyone acting all refined and high handed about Floyds sudden turn to silence look like total douchebags. This is FMJ we are talking about. You dont get to say dumbass stuff NON STOP in public for years AND brag about it...then play the classy and reflective card. Even if you left little floyd out...having roger and Floyd Sr. in your camp pretty much decimates any form of public legitimacy. SO...tone the "HIGH ROAD" BS down...no one is buying it.

2. Please dont act like its not a big deal that Floyd may renig on his cutoff date now that Pac has agreed to it. That is the boxing equivalent of Drawing a line in the sand and daring a man to cross it to fight you, and when he DOES...you step back and draw another one and say now cross that one. THEN WHEN THEY DO THAT....You say "THE LINES NEVER MATTERED ANYWAY WE AINT FIGHTING" Its a big deal and I would look like a tool if I tried to defend it.

For the sake of all of us....Fight. STFU and fight.

Floyd....dont sit around and think of 25 different things you think you are entitled to have before you will fight.

Pac....if Floyd DOES set unheard of hurdles for you to jump through to fight him...DO IT.

I will have to say....I feel that this puts the burden on Floyd.

Your first point I agree with, I never for one second believed that Mayweather was taking the high road He don't have a map showing that route.

Your second point, no way bro..... let's step through it.....

2. Please dont act like its not a big deal that Floyd may renig on his cutoff date now that Pac has agreed to it.

STOP !!

What the hell ?

Pac refused to accept a 14-day cutoff citing a raft of different reasons, but finalising on..... "it weakens me"..... but apparently, now..... it doesn't weaken him ?

When Manny refused, the negotiations broke down. Forget boxing, when ANY business negotiation breaks down, THERE IS NO LONGER AN OFFER ON THE TABLE.

It is knieve to think that Mayweather could "reneg" on a business deal that Manny refused to accept.

That is the boxing equivalent of Drawing a line in the sand and daring a man to cross it to fight you, and when he DOES...you step back and draw another one and say now cross that one.

STOP !!

When Mayweather drew a line in the sand, Manny DID NOT cross it. He refused to cross it..... it weakens me, blah, blah, something, something..... remember? If he had crossed that line, we would be discussing the result right now, instead of wondering what happened.

When the negotiations ended, the tide came in and washed over that line in the sand.

Negotiations will resume, after Mayweather has finished sweating Arum, and when the new line is drawn in the sand, we will see if Manny will cross it.

[LeadUppercut]

the testing mosley and floyd went through did not assure any of them wasn't cheating. this is coming from conte himself.

any "improvement" in testing is useless if it year-long testing isn't established.

i doubt floyd is that dedicated to his ped crusade to agree to that.

agree to the 14 days, and we have a fight.

If that is true..... then give me ONE good reason why Manny would not accept the 14-day cutoff date..... the same offer that Shane accepted..... you know, the same offer that Manny will accept now?

And don't tell me that you believe that Manny actually thinks that blood tests will weaken him.....
Manny is sexy enough to piss in my pocket then tell me it's raining, but you're not bro