I HATE Julio Chavez

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Chavez had the better chin, I think. Save for the Randall KD, I think only Tszyu managed to drop him and that was, what, his last fight? I don't know if Oscar had better defense...at all. Ike tagged him up pretty good, so did Mosley, so did Oba Carr...heck, Derrell Coley had him hurt! Matter of fact, save for the Tito fight, I can't think of a fight where Oscar exhibited good defense. Chavez was very adept at slipping and rolling, particularly on the inside. Better jab? Definitely. Maybe footwork although that's debatable.

De La Hoya showed good parrying and blocking defense against Mayweather. I thought both guys showed good defense, but crappy offense.

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I wasn't a big fan of Chavez when he fought, I usually rooted against him, but he was a great fighter. Chavez was very skilled. Having skills isn't just being flashy and fast and moving around the ring. Cutting off the ring is a skill. Chavez was very good at that. Throwing accurate combinations is a skill. Creating and exploiting openings is the main idea of combination punching, and Chavez did that great. He mixed it up well to both the body and head. He was no defensive whiz, but he slipped shots and rolled with them effectively. The fact that it took him 90 fights to get dropped wasn't only because of his chin and abnormally sized cranium. It was also because he was far from a punching bag either.

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I will never and I mean never, give Chavez any credit. I can't stand him as a person or as a fighter. I hated when he beat Taylor and it still pisses me off that he could stand in the ring and raise his fist, after the beating he took from Whittaker. He is disrespectful, dirty, and a quitter in the ring. I loved seeing him bleed and getting nailed left and right from De La Hoya. Mexican fans that support him are just nationalistic pricks. There is nothing great about being a punching bag and brawling. This guy had no respect for his opponents even when he got his ass beat and I refuse till my death to ever give this guy any respect. Straight up scum bag.

JCC had a big ego, just as most great champions
if you hate JCC for this, you must hate a whole lot of great champions

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[wichito_one]

As a person i think he is a funny idiot he drinks too much and the ******* has him unbalanced, and the **** that comes out of his mouth is hilarious especially as a commentator.He is not a formal speaker like JMM Rafa, MAB. Now as a fighter ATG mexican fighter and one of the best fighters i've ever seen lace it up and i salute him and has nothing to do with being mexican. His record speaks for itself.

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I wasn't a big fan of Chavez when he fought, I usually rooted against him, but he was a great fighter. Chavez was very skilled. Having skills isn't just being flashy and fast and moving around the ring. Cutting off the ring is a skill. Chavez was very good at that. Throwing accurate combinations is a skill. Creating and exploiting openings is the main idea of combination punching, and Chavez did that great. He mixed it up well to both the body and head. He was no defensive whiz, but he slipped shots and rolled with them effectively. The fact that it took him 90 fights to get dropped wasn't only because of his chin and abnormally sized cranium. It was also because he was far from a punching bag either.

great post

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So he had a better jab and was faster. Can't really say he was a better boxer. Chavez was the better ring general, better bodypuncher, better stamina, as powerful, better chin and did it against better opposition. In terms of skills, Chavez is a couple steps better. In terms of resume it's not even close.

I can't think of something Oscar did better than Julio besides jab. Seriously. Maybe I'm forgetting something tho..

I would say Oscar was faster, better jab and better left hook. Everything I agree with you. Look, don't get me wrong I'm a huge JCC fan, he's one of the greatest fighters ever IMO.

I also just don't want to trash DLH though, he's a great fighter as well. Not on the level as JCC but he's no slouch.

I also think DLH resume is pretty damn good and he fought farther out of his weight class as well, you have to take that in consideration.

Chavez is a much better fighter agreed, I just don't want to make DLH look like some bum that we shouldn't even be comparing him to.

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I would say Oscar was faster, better jab and better left hook. Everything I agree with you. Look, don't get me wrong I'm a huge JCC fan, he's one of the greatest fighters ever IMO.

I also just don't want to trash DLH though, he's a great fighter as well. Not on the level as JCC but he's no slouch.

I also think DLH resume is pretty damn good and he fought farther out of his weight class as well, you have to take that in consideration.

Chavez is a much better fighter agreed, I just don't want to make DLH look like some bum that we shouldn't even be comparing him to.

I hear you, bud. De La Hoya is a HOF'er in his own right but he doesn't compare to Chavez in any way, shape or form. Hell, Razor Ruddock had a better hook than Chavez. Means little. Overall, Chavez was more skilled and had a far, far greater resume. It's not even close.

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JCC... greatest Mexican fighter ever, and my all time favorite fighter.

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Damn bro, calm down man....no need to get all angry and ****. You are a Mexican but your ethnicity is Hispanic or Latino whether you like it or not.

****in pocho? Man you wish you were one bro.....I am very proud of being an American or a "pocho"

Chill out Bro. no hating… If you are proud of your heritage, I’m fine with it. I also feel the same about my roots. Let’s knock this bull-**** out and keep enjoying the sweet science.

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This guy made Mexicans turn their backs on DLH, out of spite.