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  • #51
    Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
    lmao i been saying the limit or max througout all my posts lol.go back and read

    we know he was chinny at 145 because the 1 fight he fought there his ass hit the canvas again despite taking shots from bigger stronger guys at the limit of 147.so it goes back to wha i said.below the weight class of 147,he is chinny lol

    i give pac all the credit in the world but i call it how i see it.he fought a drained cotto.freddie roach even said it.cotto is to much of a class act to admit it.
    You can go back and look that you never used the word limit.

    And, the punches that you don't see coming are the ones that hurt you the most. Is not so much bigger or stronger. Duran got dropped by DeJesus as LW but did not get dropped by bigger stronger fighters like Hagler and Barkley.

    Now Pac speed=power, and if you add speed+punches from awkward angles could hurt you since you didn't see them coming. And, again those are the punches that hurt you the most. So again saying he is chinny at 145 is not so clear cut cuz it could of been cuz of Pac speed and awkward punches from the southpaw stance that hurt Cotto.

    Again you not calling it how you see them. But, I find it funny that you said he was not chinny against Clottey, Judah, and Shane but now saying he was not chinny at the 147 limit. But, whatever bro as long as we clear that Pac only won cuz Cotto was weight drained.

    So you shouldn't have a problem with a Pac-Cotto rematch at 154 if Cotto beats Foreman. Since at 154 Cotto would not be weight drained.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
      i give pac all the credit in the world but i call it how i see it.he fought a drained cotto.freddie roach even said it.cotto is to much of a class act to admit it.
      cut the bull****...a weight drained fighter can not withstand a one-sided beatdown for 11 rounds. if he was out the first time he was down then you got a valid point with the weight drained theory. roach was just using the issue to hype the fight...don't be ******.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        You can go back and look that you never used the word limit.

        And, the punches that you don't see coming are the ones that hurt you the most. Is not so much bigger or stronger. Duran got dropped by DeJesus as LW but did not get dropped by bigger stronger fighters like Hagler and Barkley.

        Now Pac speed=power, and if you add speed+punches from awkward angles could hurt you since you didn't see them coming. And, again those are the punches that hurt you the most. So again saying he is chinny at 145 is not so clear cut cuz it could of been cuz of Pac speed and awkward punches from the southpaw stance that hurt Cotto.

        Again you not calling it how you see them. But, I find it funny that you said he was not chinny against Clottey, Judah, and Shane but now saying he was not chinny at the 147 limit. But, whatever bro as long as we clear that Pac only won cuz Cotto was weight drained.

        So you shouldn't have a problem with a Pac-Cotto rematch at 154 if Cotto beats Foreman. Since at 154 Cotto would not be weight drained.
        New "flavor of the month" phrase here. How do you know that? Because people have said it? Please.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by S H A R K B O Y View Post
          New "flavor of the month" phrase here. How do you know that? Because people have said it? Please.
          Ok then you right speed does not = power plus speed with punches that you do not see coming don't hurt you. Thanks for setting the record straight.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by brick wall View Post
            cut the bull****...a weight drained fighter can not withstand a one-sided beatdown for 11 rounds. if he was out the first time he was down then you got a valid point with the weight drained theory. roach was just using the issue to hype the fight...don't be ******.
            lmao who in the history of boxing has ever hyped a fight by saying a guy will be weight drained lmao

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            • #56
              Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
              lmao who in the history of boxing has ever hyped a fight by saying a guy will be weight drained lmao
              actually i've never seen an article or an interview done by roach where he said cotto is going to be weight drained during the fight...he only said they will not allow cotto to go beyond 145. provide a link or you're just making up ****** stories.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                cut the bull****...a weight drained fighter can not withstand a one-sided beatdown for 11 rounds. if he was out the first time he was down then you got a valid point with the weight drained theory. roach was just using the issue to hype the fight...don't be ******.
                oscar was clearly weight drained vs pac he was taking madd punishment he never looked like he ws going down and it was round 9. Cotto didnt start takinng punishment from the first or second round so ur statement doesn't make sence

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  You can go back and look that you never used the word limit.

                  And, the punches that you don't see coming are the ones that hurt you the most. Is not so much bigger or stronger. Duran got dropped by DeJesus as LW but did not get dropped by bigger stronger fighters like Hagler and Barkley.

                  Now Pac speed=power, and if you add speed+punches from awkward angles could hurt you since you didn't see them coming. And, again those are the punches that hurt you the most. So again saying he is chinny at 145 is not so clear cut cuz it could of been cuz of Pac speed and awkward punches from the southpaw stance that hurt Cotto.

                  Again you not calling it how you see them. But, I find it funny that you said he was not chinny against Clottey, Judah, and Shane but now saying he was not chinny at the 147 limit. But, whatever bro as long as we clear that Pac only won cuz Cotto was weight drained.

                  So you shouldn't have a problem with a Pac-Cotto rematch at 154 if Cotto beats Foreman. Since at 154 Cotto would not be weight drained
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                  pacs speed was definitely a problem for cotto,as cottos size was a problem for pac.which is why they fought at 145.manny had every possible advantage he could have.

                  i would love to see pac/cotto again at 154.i wouldnt even mind seeing it as a real ww fight of 147

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                  • #59
                    I like cotto but pac beats him regardless.......

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Va_BoriKua View Post
                      oscar was clearly weight drained vs pac he was taking madd punishment he never looked like he ws going down and it was round 9. Cotto didnt start takinng punishment from the first or second round so ur statement doesn't make sence
                      oscar quit in his stool which he never did before...in cotto's case the ref needed to step in to stop the fight. if the ref didn't stop the fight cotto would've continued fighting up to 12th round...is that a weight drained fighter for you? and so what if he started taking punishment in the 3rd round? that's 3rd to 11th round of one-sided beatdown and cotto endured it...he even have the legs to ride his bicycle in the latter rounds so don't give me that weight drained excuse because it will just make you a ****** cotto fanatic.

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