Floyd HAS NEVER BEATEN a BONA FIDE GREAT FIGHTER in their PRIME

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  • BoxerDood
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    #181
    lol since when is it okay to get knocked out by Jones, then beaten two more times, then fight a bunch of tomato cans and go to war with Morales two more times and be considered in your prime? Its like saying the Ward trilogy had no effect on Gatti, or the Vazquez trilogy had no effect on R Marquez...

    My analysis (from a non ****rider point of view): Floyd only fought one great fighter in their prime (Castillo), and Pacquiao also fought one (Marquez), which he fought to a draw. For those who don't think Castillo is a great fighter, consider this. People seem to be blinded by his early and late career and forget about his prime years. Heck, he even beat Ngoudjo while he was blown up and struggling to make 140. In his prime he upset Johnston and beat Casamayor and Chico (let's face it, in the first fight he would have won if Chico didn't spit out his mouthpiece to recover).

    BOTH had opportunities to fight great fighters in their prime but didn't. Floyd could have fought Casamayor, Spadafora, Malignaggi, etc. and Pacquiao could have fought Soto, Guzman and Raheem. I reeeally think Guzman would have had a good chance of beating Pac, and same goes for Casamayor against Floyd.
    Last edited by BoxerDood; 05-29-2010, 12:29 PM.

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    • Burnthrust
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      #182
      People have already answered this question yet you still ask it. You are so much of a hater you don't even read the post you just keep askin the same question over and over again. I can't wait to hear the what people will say after Floyd beats pac.

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      • Pacquiao'd
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        #183
        Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
        so we should open the flood gates? we should just do away with criteria?


        ive mention it already that there are boxers in the hall of fame that dont deserve to be there.


        just because some got in that dont deserve it, that doesnt mean we should all let everybody in that doesnt deserve to be in because some boxers who didnt deserve to get in got in.
        *******s are pathetic. osiris aka toprank has gotten to be just as bad as those such as yourself

        toprank haha, dude is a certified fanboy

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        • Ray*
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          #184
          Originally posted by -Top Rank-
          Instead of throwing childish ass remarks, please make a case for those guys? I have already stated why I don't believe they should, so why don't you make a case in their behalf....

          Make a case for them??? WTF? YOU ARE A BOXING FAN!!! Make a case for someone like castillo? make a case for someone like corrales? make a case for someone like gatti? When we have mediocre boxers in the HOF!!! **** that **** am off this dumb ******ed thread..

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          • Burnthrust
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            #185
            Originally posted by BoxerDood
            lol since when is it okay to get knocked out by Jones, then beaten two more times, then fight a bunch of tomato cans and go to war with Morales two more times and be considered in your prime? Its like saying the Ward trilogy had no effect on Gatti, or the Vazquez trilogy had no effect on R Marquez...

            My analysis (from a non ****rider point of view): Floyd only fought one great fighter in their prime (Castillo), and Pacquiao also fought one (Marquez), which he fought to a draw. For those who don't think Castillo is a great fighter, consider this. People seem to be blinded by his early and late career and forget about his prime years. Heck, he even beat Ngoudjo while he was blown up and struggling to make 140. In his prime he upset Johnston and beat Casamayor and Chico (let's face it, in the first fight he would have won if Chico didn't spit out his mouthpiece to recover).

            BOTH had opportunities to fight great fighters in their prime but didn't. Floyd could have fought Casamayor, Spadafora, Malignaggi, etc. and Pacquiao could have fought Soto, Guzman and Raheem. I reeeally think Guzman would have had a good chance of beating Pac, and same goes for Casamayor against Floyd.
            You really think Malignaggi has a chance? WOW

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            • feefiflofum
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              #186
              Originally posted by yesir
              *******s are pathetic. osiris aka toprank has gotten to be just as bad as those such as yourself

              toprank haha, dude is a certified fanboy


              *******s dont lie and twist reality like u do id go with their word ANYDAY

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              • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                #187
                Originally posted by BoxerDood
                lol since when is it okay to get knocked out by Jones, then beaten two more times, then fight a bunch of tomato cans and go to war with Morales two more times and be considered in your prime? Its like saying the Ward trilogy had no effect on Gatti, or the Vazquez trilogy had no effect on R Marquez...

                My analysis (from a non ****rider point of view): Floyd hasn't really fought a great fighter in their prime, and Pacquiao has only fought one (Marquez), which he fought to a draw. You could consider Castillo one if you want, though. In a way I do. People seem to be blinded by his early and late career and forget about his prime years. Heck, he even beat Ngoudjo while he was blown up and struggling to make 140.

                BOTH had opportunities to fight great fighters in their prime but didn't. Floyd could have fought Casamayor, Spadafora, Malignaggi, etc. and Pacquiao could have fought Soto, Guzman and Raheem. I reeeally think Guzman would have had a good chance of beating Pac, and same goes for Casamayor against Floyd.
                he fought barerra who was p4p 3# & was on a 8 fight winning streak before pac & a 6 fight winning streak after pac. barerra didnt get knocked out by junior jones. he was disqualified because his corner came in the ring. then he got decisioned in the rematch.

                Pac could have fougth soto? humberto soto? guzman? raheem? raheem was at 135 while pac was still fighting at 130. If pac fought & beat all those guys, could you even brag about them?


                im even gonna defend floyd from the malignaggi remark. malignaggi? are you ****ing kidding me?


                None of those boxers you just mentioned for both pac & floyd can be classified as great hall of fame fighters. NONE. casamayor was the best out of that bunch & he falls short of hall of fame.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by BoxerDood
                  lol since when is it okay to get knocked out by Jones, then beaten two more times, then fight a bunch of tomato cans and go to war with Morales two more times and be considered in your prime? Its like saying the Ward trilogy had no effect on Gatti, or the Vazquez trilogy had no effect on R Marquez...

                  My analysis (from a non ****rider point of view): Floyd only fought one great fighter in their prime (Castillo), and Pacquiao also fought one (Marquez), which he fought to a draw. For those who don't think Castillo is a great fighter, consider this. People seem to be blinded by his early and late career and forget about his prime years. Heck, he even beat Ngoudjo while he was blown up and struggling to make 140. In his prime he upset Johnston and beat Casamayor and Chico (let's face it, in the first fight he would have won if Chico didn't spit out his mouthpiece to recover).

                  BOTH had opportunities to fight great fighters in their prime but didn't. Floyd could have fought Casamayor, Spadafora, Malignaggi, etc. and Pacquiao could have fought Soto, Guzman and Raheem. I reeeally think Guzman would have had a good chance of beating Pac, and same goes for Casamayor against Floyd.
                  malinaggi?

                  corales was prime

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                  • The Negro
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Yeah because in boxing P4P Lists dont matter.

                    It clearly went over your head, cable guy.

                    You are incapable of comprehending people.

                    "He's a great fighter because he made some journalist's list, based on hype and conjecture. I can't prove my point that he was a great fighter because of who he beat, so I'll refer to a nonsensical list to do it for me."



                    When you people refer to these pound for pound lists and can't articulate on why someone was a great fighter, it really shows your lack of knowledge on the matter.

                    I'm out. You can't debate with people who are incapable of debating.

                    Adios.
                    Last edited by The Negro; 05-29-2010, 12:35 PM.

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                    • Khalid X
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      Make a case for them??? WTF? YOU ARE A BOXING FAN!!! Make a case for someone like castillo? make a case for someone like corrales? make a case for someone like gatti? When we have mediocre boxers in the HOF!!! **** that **** am off this dumb ******ed thread..
                      I have stated several times in the past that boxing HOF is a joke with the amount of guys in there that don't belong. For those guys (Gatti, Corrales, Castillo) to make it in there just confirms it.

                      Why open the flood gates and make having the term "HOF status" next to a boxers name less meaningful? But good job in ducking my question coward.
                      Last edited by Khalid X; 05-29-2010, 12:43 PM.

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