Who Lost the Fight? Gatti or McGirt?

[Red_Menace]

well the so-called "Blood & Guts Warrior" now goes into the Quitters Club along with Tyson, Tszyu, Navarro, Abdullaev, the Quitschko's, Freitas, and the president of the club Andrew Golota..... Gatti quit before the end of round 6 when he basically stopped fighting back, he just wanted to make it back to the corner so that Dirt McGirt could be the scapegoat....so to answer the question, GATTI LOST

Gatti's eye was messed. The ring doctor was in checking him out when the corner threw in the towel. He took the most one-sided beating in round six, it wasn't funny. He is a blood and guts warrior. He got pounded for three minutes straight and refused to drop. He was outclassed and outmatched. There is a time when health has to come before pride. McGirt knew he was done, and smartly told him he was done for the night. There's a difference between quitting because you're beat mentally, or frustrated, and quitting when you're guaranteed to get seriously hurt.

[SacTown1]

Gatti's eye was messed. The ring doctor was in checking him out when the corner threw in the towel. He took the most one-sided beating in round six, it wasn't funny. He is a blood and guts warrior. He got pounded for three minutes straight and refused to drop. He was outclassed and outmatched. There is a time when health has to come before pride. McGirt knew he was done, and smartly told him he was done for the night. There's a difference between quitting because you're beat mentally, or frustrated, and quitting when you're guaranteed to get seriously hurt.

thaks for all of the lousy excuses, but Gatti quit in the middle of round 6, the "old" Gatti would have AT LEAST tried to land a monster left hook, the "new" Gatti who now has $1mil in the bank didn't retaliate and stopped throwing punches until the round ended so that McGirt could quit for him (I can't say I blame the guy, Mayweather was a trillion times more talented, but he quit regardless of how you want to rationalize it)

[Red_Menace]

thaks for all of the lousy excuses, but Gatti quit in the middle of round 6, the "old" Gatti would have AT LEAST tried to land a monster left hook, the "new" Gatti who now has $1mil in the bank didn't retaliate and stopped throwing punches until the round ended so that McGirt could quit for him (I can't say I blame the guy, Mayweather was a trillion times more talented, but he quit regardless of how you want to rationalize it)

I'm not gonna discredit Mayweather. Gatti didn't stop throwing punches so his corner would throw in the towel. He stopped throwing punches because he was getting hurt badly, and he was being hit relentlessly. Maybe in the old days he would have stayed in for one more round, just to try for that lucky shot, but there's a big difference between hangin' in with Rodriguez where he has a reasonably chance of catching up, and hangin' in with Mayweather, who's arguably the best boxer in the world.

[SacTown1]

I'm not gonna discredit Mayweather. Gatti didn't stop throwing punches so his corner would throw in the towel. He stopped throwing punches because he was getting hurt badly, and he was being hit relentlessly. Maybe in the old days he would have stayed in for one more round, just to try for that lucky shot, but there's a big difference between hangin' in with Rodriguez where he has a reasonably chance of catching up, and hangin' in with Mayweather, who's arguably the best boxer in the world.

no doubt, good points about the talent difference between Floyd & Wilson, & Gatti stopped fighting back because he was getting hit repeatedly, but we're still just working around the point that Gatti did in fact quit, it was by no means the most dishonorable quit-job in boxing history, heck I thought McGirt should have thrown in the towel after round 4, but he did quit, no matter how we slice it

[Red_Menace]

no doubt, good points about the talent difference between Floyd & Wilson, & Gatti stopped fighting back because he was getting hit repeatedly, but we're still just working around the point that Gatti did in fact quit, it was by no means the most dishonorable quit-job in boxing history, heck I thought McGirt should have thrown in the towel after round 4, but he did quit, no matter how we slice it

I guess I just don't think quitting is necessarily a bad thing. A difference of opinion, really. To me, there's no shame in submitting to your opponent when you've had the **** kicked out of you, and there really isn't a chance of you turning it around. Quitting because you don't THINK you can win, and you give up on yourself, is when it's bad.

[fatpom]

I've been trying to figure out exactly why McGirt would send Gatti in there to box Mayweather. Like most of you, I thought Arturo's only chance was to revert back to his old self. And I knew he had Zero chance to win, trying to box.

I think the biggest difference in the Gatti we've known from the past & the Gatti we saw against Mayweather was in his mind set.
McGirt has been fantastic for Arturo & deserves credit for giving Gatti a 2nd wind in his career.
But it has been drilled into Gatti's head over his time with McGirt that it is not a good thing to get hit. The old Gatti was happy to take 3,4 or 5 punches in the hope of landing one. But that is no longer the case. He is no longer in a brawlers mind set. While that was a real positive thing against he recent opponents. It worked as a negitive against PBF.

We always say styles make fights, and even though I think he still gets beat, the old Gatti probably has a better shot at beating Mayweather than the recent version. Even though Gatti under McGirt is a much improved fighter.

I guess in there defense, it is a little harsh to just expect Gatti to just flip a switch & become a brawler again. Considering he has been working extremly hard to move away from that.

As far as Gatti quiting. It's just silly, Buddy stopped the fight, Gatti did not quit. He was literally begging for one more round. But McGirt stopped it, like a good trainer should.

[scottie]

Begging is NOT asking many times, open a dictionary and find something like "to ask (earnestly) for"

Next time I will take better heed in the "your (think to) see" and "think (to know)" parts of your post.


A small count finally:
One more...one more round..one more.

didn't see this til today. is that how people beg? u should go out more. if you want something so bad, u "gatti" show it but apparently gatti want no more of floyd. to me he quitted and his corner saved his face.

[tracylee]

I think that regardless of the gameplan, Floyds speed was just too much for him. Up until that fight I considered McGirt a godsend (and still do) but for that particular fight it would have been better if he fought the old way. I still dont think he would have won but he may have hurt Floyd a little atleast. Let him know he was there! McGirt is perfect for a fighter like gatti..been thru countless wars and damn near finished cause he is teaching him how to defend himself better and therefore extend him career to make more money before retiring. But for this fight boxing was not the answer cause Floyd is just too fast and slick...thankfully they dont all box as well as Floyd and this is Gatti first loss while being with McGirt since the first fight with Ward.

[Slipx]

Your a ****ing idiot...

Vivian Harris should get fired..

ya he is

steward produced the best lhw ever in michael moorer

and lets not talk about hearns

[Slipx]

I knew gatti would lose if he didn't come out brawling..

he did land 2 or 3 good jabs early but mw adapted and didnt get caught with them again