Who Lost the Fight? Gatti or McGirt?

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  • DLT
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    Who Lost the Fight? Gatti or McGirt?

    Im a huge Mayweather fan so I dont think Gatti couldve won no matter what but do you guys think that McGirt had a idiotic game plan that made it even easier for Floyd? If Gatti wouldve went back to his brawling style would have had a chance? The reason I ask is because I think McGirt is the most overrated trainer in boxing. Gatti barley beat Branco with his style. I think Goosen is 10x better. He was the trainer win Cassamayor beat Chico and then the next fight Goosen went to Chico and McGirt went to Casamayor and had him fighting ****** ever since. Chico dominater the second fight until the end when you could tell that Joel abandon what Buddy was saying and just fought like he wanted to and then he started beating Chico again.

    McGirt tries to make guys fight just like he did and its ******. He is not a top trainer. Either way though I think Floyd wouldve killed Gatti
  • DiegoFuego
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    I think Harris' loss tonight proves Manny Steward is the most overrated trainer in the game. That was hilarious!

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    • Dyl-G
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      either way gatti was the underdog, butt for mcgirt to try and have a expert brawler fight an expert boxer, like a boxer was just suicide for gatti, as we saw tonight. if gatti brawled gatti would have done a lot better. i think t the sixth round when gatti was begging for one more round before they quit. mcgirt should have let him go and let gatti fight that round the way he has always fought. that way if he still would have gone out he would have gone out like the gatti we know.

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      • Red_Menace
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        #4
        Originally posted by Dyl-G
        either way gatti was the underdog, butt for mcgirt to try and have a expert brawler fight an expert boxer, like a boxer was just suicide for gatti, as we saw tonight. if gatti brawled gatti would have done a lot better. i think t the sixth round when gatti was begging for one more round before they quit. mcgirt should have let him go and let gatti fight that round the way he has always fought. that way if he still would have gone out he would have gone out like the gatti we know.
        No, Gatti was seriously hurt ... he was in pain in the corner. He's an unbelievable character. I don't understand how he takes so much punishment. But someone has to step in and protect him, because he honestly seems like he'd fight until he died in the ring. If Gatti had brawled, I think it may have been more exciting for a while, but probably would have ended quicker, and with Gatti KO'd.

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        • Dyl-G
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          #5
          Originally posted by DiegoFuego
          I think Harris' loss tonight proves Manny Steward is the most overrated trainer in the game. That was hilarious!
          i think that it was harris who lost that fight, emmanual didnt want harris to fight like that, harris fought like that because he strayed from the gameplan and went for that first round knockout but didnt stop there he kept going until the 5th round? and you heard rjj say that you go for the first round KO but after that yo have to go back to boxing and the gameplan. it was harris' fault he lost that fight not emmanuals. i could see that harris was a better boxer and i could see that he wasnt using that. i could see emmanual not wanting harris to fight the way he did and saying that this guy was easy competition, which he was, he was like a skinny mcbride

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          • Dyl-G
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            Originally posted by Red_Menace
            No, Gatti was seriously hurt ... he was in pain in the corner. He's an unbelievable character. I don't understand how he takes so much punishment. But someone has to step in and protect him, because he honestly seems like he'd fight until he died in the ring. If Gatti had brawled, I think it may have been more exciting for a while, but probably would have ended quicker, and with Gatti KO'd.
            you seei think gatti would have had a chance at a mayweather KO, there is no way in hell gatti was ever going to win boxing, the only chance of him winning was by KO alone and the only way to do that was with a brawl. gatti would have taken less punishment in a brawl i think too because he would be throwing and putting pressure on instead of standing there like target practice.

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            • Dio2
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              Originally posted by Dyl-G
              you seei think gatti would have had a chance at a mayweather KO, there is no way in hell gatti was ever going to win boxing, the only chance of him winning was by KO alone and the only way to do that was with a brawl. gatti would have taken less punishment in a brawl i think too because he would be throwing and putting pressure on instead of standing there like target practice.
              I don't know if you guys were watching the same fight I was but Gatti was trying to brawl. Its just not possible when a guy hits you so fast that he disappears almost before you realize you've been hit. Gatti wanted to brawl but a superior boxer like mayweather can neutralize just about any brawler. Let's say Gatti tried to fight like Hatton fought Tszyu. Exact same result but probably sooner. Mayweather excels when you chase him around the ring. He also excels when you try to box with him. Ultra fast hands, feet, good power, accuracy,conditioning and technique and great ring intelligence. Its hard for any fighter let alone a moderately skilled fighter like Gatti to find a strategy against mayweather.

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #8
                There's nothing to this.

                In theory, Gatti and McGirt's plan was fine.

                In actuality, Mayweather could land 2 shots on Gatti before he could get off one, and it didn't matter what Gatti did.

                Roy put it best: "He's frustrated because no matter what he does he gets hit with 7 shots".

                The speed difference was the problem. Not the game plan or the trainer.

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                • Urban Predator
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                  Gatti lost the fight.

                  He's simply not good enough.

                  He had no answer for Floyd's speed. He just couldn't adapt his game plan to deal with what Floyd was dishing out.

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                  • gnostic19
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                    That was the strategy they came up with? Damn. I read on ESPN where McGirst said he wanted Gatti to circle to his left and go to teh body. Gatti, did not cirsle at all. Still, it was a dumb plan to try to outbox Mayfeather. Gatti looked sharp and aware in the first round. He was ducking Mayfeather's big rights on a consistent basis, but there is no way he could have stayed that sharp for 12 rounds. I do think that sucker punch took alot out of Gatti, but teh outcome would not have been different.

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