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  • Stone Roses!
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    #101
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    I don't like it either. But it is so in other sports where it doesn't look pretty either. Surely it comes to boxing as well.

    That's why I say that the governing bodies need to step it up and employ a strict random testing scheme for all championship fights starting right NOW. That's the only way to go IMO.
    I agree......This issue won't go away and this is just a pre-curser to what we will see in the future.....pretty soon every challenger will be asking for OST...and if you refuse to take them you bet your ass you are suspect

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #102
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      I don't like it either. But it is so in other sports where it doesn't look pretty either. Surely it comes to boxing as well.

      That's why I say that the governing bodies need to step it up and employ a strict random testing scheme for all championship fights starting right NOW. That's the only way to go IMO.
      Yea but they wont pay for it and cant force thier fighters to pay 20 grand for a test for each fight

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #103
        Originally posted by Rubber Soul
        I agree......This issue won't go away and this is just a pre-curser to what we will see in the future.....pretty soon every challenger will be asking for OST...and if you refuse to take them you bet your ass you are suspect
        Only high level fighters will ask for it because 99% of boxers cant afford the 20k price tag that come with it

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        • Heru
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          #104
          Expecting the commissions to implant a universal random blood and urine testing is foolish. It's a conflict of interest.

          Refs, judges, and sanctioning organizations get paid by the promoter(s) after the scheduled card actually takes place. I assume the commissions would be the same.

          So how can you ****ing expect them to just give up money that would be going into their pockets to pay for stricter testing? The tests supposedly costs some 20-40K.

          And if/when they actually catch a fighter before a fight... then what? The fight doesn't go on... Which means no money at all.

          Do you think they would have willingly gave up the De La Hoya-Vargas or De La Hoya-Mosley paydays just to protect a fighters health? They're content with caacthing these guys after the fight happen, if at all.

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            #105
            While both floyd and mosley have consented to unlimited testing, they already had an

            Funny how everybody is lauding Floyd and Mosley for undergoing random USADA testing, to ensure that none among them is using PED's. Then comes the revelation that they were last tested 18 and 19 days, respectively, before the fight. If they had both consented to being tested up to the day of the fight, why didn't USADA test them much closer to the fight to completely remove any doubts that any one of them are on something? ONLY FOOLS CAN'T SEE THAT WHILE BOTH FLOYD AND MOSLEY HAVE CONSENTED TO UNLIMITED TESTING, THEY ALREADY HAD AN 18-DAY CUTOFF PERIOD IN PLACE. Go ahead, tell me just one valid reason why they were not tested maybe even 5 days before the fight. Oh, .... what? OK, i get it, USADA was sure they would not juice that close to the fight. LMAO. USADA must think you all are idiots to believe that.

            Yet, when Pacquiao now agrees to the 14-day cutoff put forth by Floyd in the failed negotiations, these idiots would say that is not good enough, Pacquiao should agree to being tested until the day of the fight. That Travis Tygart a**hole even had the temerity to say that Pacquiao's offer is not good enough because it would not be unlimited testing. Apparently what is good for the DUCK(er) is not good for the gander.

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              #106
              Originally posted by yevskiy426
              Yea but they wont pay for it and cant force thier fighters to pay 20 grand for a test for each fight
              That's why I said championship fights. The scheme is obviously expensive but everybody has an interest in it being performed.

              If combined with a whereabout scheme for all ranked fighters and a commital by all ranked fighters to being subject to a test at any given time boxing has come a long way.

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                #107
                Originally posted by damned1974
                The police only need a meager "hunch", su****ion and circumstances to hold you in jail.They can only hold you for so long until either enough evidence is gathered,and if they don't have enough-they will choose to have you remain at suspect status and let you out of jail (but not without having investigators place surveillance on you and watch your every move in some cases)...
                Innocent until proven guilty is a slogan more than anything else.
                You do not have to be proven GUILTY to be arrested and placed in jail temporarily,but you have to prove your innocence to be found NOT GUILTY.Make sense?

                Again-what good comes out of this for Wlad,Manny,etc by refusing OST testing?????
                NO they have to prove you guilty.....when you are takin in you are detained until you are charged with the crime. A "hunch" has to have credibilty to it.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by yevskiy426
                  Dude it says your from Sydney so you have no idea of American Law..NONE

                  Suspects are only imprisoned if there is enough evidense....su****ion is not evidence

                  and by reading your last comment its obvious you know nothing
                  BTW- you said you are Ukrainian....do you currently/or have you-lived in America? Im just interested in how you know about the way the law works over there.

                  As you pointed out,I live in Sydney-but I have lived in America for many years.I am just wondering how you have a better idea of how things work in the States than me if you haven't lived there....

                  Funny how you accuse me of "knowing nothing" when you didn't realize I lived there! lol

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                    Expecting the commissions to implant a universal random blood and urine testing is foolish. It's a conflict of interest.

                    Refs, judges, and sanctioning organizations get paid by the promoter(s) after the scheduled card actually takes place. I assume the commissions would be the same.

                    So how can you ****ing expect them to just give up money that would be going into their pockets to pay for stricter testing? The tests supposedly costs some 20-40K.

                    And if/when they actually catch a fighter before a fight... then what? The fight doesn't go on... Which means no money at all.

                    Do you think they would have willingly gave up the De La Hoya-Vargas or De La Hoya-Mosley paydays just to protect a fighters health? They're content with caacthing these guys after the fight happen, if at all.
                    Exactly what i was thinking, great post

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                    • JK1700
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                      #110
                      So if he wont fight Wlad. What next for Povetkin?

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