Sonny Liston - The Man Behind The Myth?

[Guest]

I dunno, you just seem to be "**** **** **** **** ****" tonight.

And it's BUM. Don't be dum.

[The Troll]

McCkay, no offense to you but you need to do some research, watch some old films, and learn about this sport a little more before you open your mouth. I have seen you give decent insight in threads concerning modern boxing, but your historical knowledge is limited.

Yeah I got the Muhammad Ali Biography tape too for suscribing to HBO.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Mckay, You can't say all those things like "Liston is a B-U-M-B" etc... He was the Heavyweight champion of the World!

Have you not seen his fights with Patterson? He had 50 something fights and KO'd almost all his wins!

He was in a depressed state and got involved with the mafia... But your favourite boy Mike Tyson is very similar to Liston in career achievments and meeting potential for the same reasons. (except the mafia with Tyson. Or is Don King considered that?)

How you can call an ex-heavyweight champion of the World a "BUM" is beyond me...

[Guest]

How you can call an ex-heavyweight champion of the World a "BUM" is beyond me...

We can still say it about Frank Bruno though, right? Know wot I mean, Arry? Har har har.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I F**kin' hate the word "BUM"!!!!!

It's like no one know's what it means!...

Bum is an expression you'd use for a journeyman fighter... Someone that has another job, but fights part-time to make extra cash.

They usually end up with a career that stands 9-84-2 (2KO's)

They're only in the business to make an easy £500 per night.

I hear people on this website saying, "Gatti's a bum!", "Johnson's a bum!", and now, "Liston was a bum!".

F**kin' hell!... LOL!... These guy's are not what we'd call a bum!

[Guest]

Martin's in rant mode.

I hate the word "hater" used as part of a debate. What are we, in primary school or something? Someone composes a lengthy thread about a boxer and "yu ****in hater" is an adult response?

[Guest]

I'm backing Gatti, incidentally, Martin... see my sig, quotation.

[Kid Achilles]

McCkay bet on McBride? Isn't that a bannable offense?

[The Troll]

Mckay, You can't say all those things like "Liston is a B-U-M-B" etc... He was the Heavyweight champion of the World!

Have you not seen his fights with Patterson? He had 50 something fights and KO'd almost all his wins!

He was in a depressed state and got involved with the mafia... But your favourite boy Mike Tyson is very similar to Liston in career achievments and meeting potential for the same reasons. (except the mafia with Tyson. Or is Don King considered that?)

How you can call an ex-heavyweight champion of the World a "BUM" is beyond me...

John Ruiz is heavyweight Champion of the world too at least he never took a disgracefull dive like Liston did. Except maybe in the Jones fight I still think Ruiz was not trying to win.

Anybody that questions that Sonny Liston was a complete disgrace to boxing need only view this short clip.

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FQECWW5558NW30HUJ3XFSYHD3

And My name is not that f***ing hard to spell. So get it right Achilles.

[Kid Achilles]

I can say the same about Tyson, except that I would have more than a short clip to support my position.