USADA Ceo Traivs Tygart Live Tonight

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  • Vito Corleone
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    #151
    Originally posted by Slick_Rick
    Nothing has changed. Floyd conduct random testing with a known drug cheater, fair enough.

    After all the publicity, the USADA didn't even try to prove a point to the public of the importance of blood test beyond the 14 days.

    BTW, you mentioned EPO is only detectable through blood, it is not, it can be trace through urine as well.
    You say "nothing has changed". I disagree. Please allow me to list a few of the substantive changes:

    1) Floyd, the NSAC, boxing hardcores, and many mainstreamers are now much more familiar with the drug testing procedures than they were in December

    2) The sentiment of much of the boxing public has shifted away from "Floyd is ducking" to "Just take the damn tests, manny".

    3) Floyd cemented his economic primacy.

    4) With the defeat of Mosley - and the WAY he defeated Mosley - Floyd has elevated his standing in the minds of many/most boxing experts and writers.

    You say that nothing changed. Well, that wouldn't speak well of why manny would flip-flop on testing if nothing changed. At least changed conditions would provide a justification for Manny changing his position. If manny changed for no reason, then he was either wrong then, or wrong now. Which is it?

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    • Vito Corleone
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      #152
      Originally posted by Slick_Rick
      Nothing has changed. Floyd conduct random testing with a known drug cheater, fair enough.

      After all the publicity, the USADA didn't even try to prove a point to the public of the importance of blood test beyond the 14 days.

      BTW, you mentioned EPO is only detectable through blood, it is not, it can be trace through urine as well.
      I actually respect them MORE for not doing stuff just for show. Yes, they could have thrown a blood test on day 9,10, or 11 just for appearances sake. But that would be managing appearances...and not pursuing their mission.

      The keywords: Deterrence. Random.

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      • check hook
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        #153
        i have a question:


        when negotiations fell apart the first time Bob Arum and team Pac denied a 14 day cut-off offer was ever made by team Mayweather....

        so how can Pac now accept an offer that was "supposedly" never made??


        pretty clear who ****ed this up the first time........

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        • Vito Corleone
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          #154
          Originally posted by check hook
          i have a question:


          when negotiations fell apart the first time Bob Arum and team Pac denied a 14 day cut-off offer was ever made by team Mayweather....

          so how can Pac now accept an offer that was "supposedly" never made??


          pretty clear who ****ed this up the first time........
          Arum came back and finally admitted that Floyd DID make the 14 day offer a few days before the mediation.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Vito Corleone
            Arum came back and finally admitted that Floyd DID make the 14 day offer a few days before the mediation.


            this is my point......they never wanted it in March....they went through the motions to save face.......they may want it now...but they never wanted it in March.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #156
              Originally posted by check hook
              this is my point......they never wanted it in March....they went through the motions to save face.......they may want it now...but they never wanted it in March.
              floyd didn't want it in march, hence the PED slander and OST demand

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              • led
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                #157
                Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                He said they felt COMFORTABLE with their analysis of the tests that were given to them. THUS, they didn't blood test 18 days prior to the fight. HOWEVER, the Floyd and Shane KNEW that USADA has the RIGHT to test them WHENEVER. Now read that again...s l o w l y.
                hmmm...that was intelligent answer coming from tygart. since they are comfortable with the analysis. they dont need to test these two fighters anymore and because they know they are going to be tested, that means they wouldnt take any peds at all?

                this a great testing..a very great random testing based on assumption because of comfortability.

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                • carts
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by check hook
                  this is my point......they never wanted it in March....they went through the motions to save face.......they may want it now...but they never wanted it in March.
                  i so believe this too!!

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                  • rawr
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by DE100
                    Missed it, is there somewhere I can re-listen?

                    So what was said?
                    Link anybody?

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                    • led
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by shogunn
                      haha poor floyd fans.

                      You still havent answered why Floyd isnt in their out of competition pool testing.

                      Tygart said himself HGH and PEDS is most beneficial months before.

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                      wow, that says alot. it looks like random testing is pure bigotry????

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