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[Pullcounter]

I see a lot of posters saying they are for better testing but then argue on why Pac shouldnt take the test, I dont get it myself. Are you for the sport or for Manny?

I see a lot of posters saying they support better testing, but then don't demand that OST should be done for all fights, including all mayweather undercards and all GBP fights in the future. I don't get it myself. Are you for the sport or for Gorilla-dog?

[Vito Corleone]

It was pretty interesting to hear that xyllocaine isn't a banned substance by the USADA.

Hmmmm... I wonder why?

Or by WADA.

Here is Rick Rockwell's article:

http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Sacr...ng-Is-it-a-PED


World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

WADA



US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

USADA.org


Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

“We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

NSAC


Conclusion

As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

[Slick_Rick]

You say "nothing has changed". I disagree. Please allow me to list a few of the substantive changes:

1) Floyd, the NSAC, boxing hardcores, and many mainstreamers are now much more familiar with the drug testing procedures than they were in December

2) The sentiment of much of the boxing public has shifted away from "Floyd is ducking" to "Just take the damn tests, manny".

3) Floyd cemented his economic primacy.

4) With the defeat of Mosley - and the WAY he defeated Mosley - Floyd has elevated his standing in the minds of many/most boxing experts and writers.

You say that nothing changed. Well, that wouldn't speak well of why manny would flip-flop on testing if nothing changed. At least changed conditions would provide a justification for Manny changing his position. If manny changed for no reason, then he was either wrong then, or wrong now. Which is it?

1. I bet if you were to ask the fans or the NSAC of their expectations, they will tell, they would have thought either fighter would have been "blood" tested within the 14 day period Manny initially refused, let alone the 18 days that actually happened.

2.Who's sentiments? Would I personally like Manny to agree to the testing in full, yes, but that's just me wanting to get to the quickest route for the fight to possibly happen. Though even if he were too do so, it would not surprise me if Floyd were do somehow wriggle his way out of it.

The fact is, we are now at a point in which Manny has agreed to a offer Floyd once found acceptable. This is a underlining fact. Its up too Floyd if he wants to follow through with those terms and get the fight on.

3. I don't see a major economic supremacy has developed from when they had agreed on 50-50.

Pac fought Clottey, a guy with literally no fan base, with incomparable promotional work to May-Mosley and managed 700k.

Mosley was being billed as a fighter that could beat Floyd, knock him out. He has a moderate fan base.
The fight a huge promotional campaign, the biggest ever I believe, 24/7 . Oscar promoting it, OSDT issue, involves a known drug user etc...

It managed to do 1.4m, which are still good numbers, but it was being billed as a fight that could do 4m??

With all that in mind 50-50 is still a fair number. The biggest margin if you want to nitpick I can see Floyd getting is 55-45 and this is being extremely generous. This also has nothing to do with the testing.

4.Pac is still regarded as p4p#1. Nothing has changed there.

I actually respect them MORE for not doing stuff just for show. Yes, they could have thrown a blood test on day 9,10, or 11 just for appearances sake. But that would be managing appearances...and not pursuing their mission.

The keywords: Deterrence. Random.

I really can't believe that, if Floyd or Mosley had been blood tested within the 14 days, the lead line would be, "well, look they blood tested them within the 14 days, this shows how important it is".

The USADA not only have a responsibility to the fighters but also to the public.
Blood testing in within the 14 days would not have taken away from the "Randomness" or "Deterrence" factor, if anything it would have added too it.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

cut off day = 18 days.

random = 18+ days before the fight.

ARE YOU A TARD? THE WHOLE IDEA OF RANDOM IS TO SCARE THE ATHLETES FROM TAKING AS THEY DONT KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE.

DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL BE TESTED EVERYDAY, JUST WHENEVER USADA STATES THEY SHOULD.

THEY COULD BE TESTED ONLY TWICE, OR THEY COULD BE TESTED THE DAY BEFORE A FIGHT, WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? Are you that blind that you cant even understand what the word random means?

Say if pac says well shane and floyd were tested last 18 days before the fight an then signed, and was caught 7 days before the fight, that shows its random.


GET A BRAIN MORON!

[Ray*]

I see a lot of posters saying they support better testing, but then don't demand that OST should be done for all fights, including all mayweather undercards and all GBP fights in the future. I don't get it myself. Are you for the sport or for Gorilla-dog?

Am for testing in all sport period! And am sure the top is a great place to start.

[Vito Corleone]

Mosley was being billed as a fighter that could beat Floyd, knock him out. He has a moderate fan base. .

Mosley has nearly no fan base.

Mosley fought Collazo to an empty arena. Fought Margarito to a purely Mexican crowd on WCB, and fought Mayorga on WCB. Mosley has never been the "A" side to a promotion. Mosley/Berto was bound for WCB and , in truth, tix were not moving.

In fact, remember that Cotto/Margarito was a successful PPV while Mosley/Margarito was WCB. In successive fights. That's pretty apples-to-apples.

Freddie Roach said that the TR team turned down Mosley for economic reasons: they "could sell twice as much with Cotto as with Mosley". A review of the relative commercial histories would verify that Cotto is a more commercially viable entity than Mosley.

Well, PBF/Mosley outsold Pac/Cotto. And both were 24/7 supported.

Thanks for allowing me to offer this perspective. Much respect.

[Slick_Rick]

Mosley has nearly no fan base.

Mosley fought Collazo to an empty arena. Fought Margarito to a purely Mexican crowd on WCB, and fought Mayorga on WCB. Mosley has never been the "A" side to a promotion. Mosley/Berto was bound for WCB and , in truth, tix were not moving.

In fact, remember that Cotto/Margarito was a successful PPV while Mosley/Margarito was WCB. In successive fights. That's pretty apples-to-apples.

Freddie Roach said that the TR team turned down Mosley for economic reasons: they "could sell twice as much with Cotto as with Mosley". A review of the relative commercial histories would verify that Cotto is a more commercially viable entity than Mosley.

Well, PBF/Mosley outsold Pac/Cotto. And both were 24/7 supported.

Thanks for allowing me to offer this perspective. Much respect.

Well, regardless of that, it has nothing to do with the issue of the testing, like I pointed out.

Anything economic advantage you see May has over Pac can be made up in the purse.

[Vito Corleone]

Well, regardless of that, it has nothing to do with the issue of the testing, like I pointed out.

Anything economic advantage you see May has over Pac can be made up in the purse.

Well, it has to do with the testing in the sense that Floyd could be an economic bully.

Would Pac even consider this coming from anyone else? You don't believe that economics had anything to do with Pac bending to Floyd's will on the 14 days?

I do.

[Slick_Rick]

Well, it has to do with the testing in the sense that Floyd could be an economic bully.

Would Pac even consider this coming from anyone else? You don't believe that economics had anything to do with Pac bending to Floyd's will on the 14 days?

I do.

They economic potential is there, and is huge. Either fighter would have to be ****** to reject that.

But nothing has changed dramatically for Pac to fold and completely coincide on any leavage he may hold. He could do it on one, but certainly not on both.

[led]

LED,

You keep responding to me when I already told you that we're on different planes.

Again, cheers to you. But we don't think the same. Feel free to ignore my posts.

as much as i can, i never ignore a post. i guess we could agree on something in the future. cheers.