Yet another OST Thread....intelligent posters only.

[PAKYO]

Floyds insistence on mosley taking the tests as well may have convinced pac that floyd and his team were not just targeting him and may have contributed to him changing his mind. Anyway it looks like he is willing to be tested so i dont see the problem now, the fight should be on, no excuses for either side now imo

Im not up to date but i cant believe that no blood was taken from floyd and mosley up to 18 days before the fight!!!! What! After all that fuss tellling us blood testing was vital and it turns out the urine test is better suited?? Cant believe that if it true, what a joke

Many people got taken for a ride there...

[BoxingGEN]

Floyds insistence on mosley taking the tests as well may have convinced pac that floyd and his team were not just targeting him and may have contributed to him changing his mind. Anyway it looks like he is willing to be tested so i dont see the problem now, the fight should be on, no excuses for either side now imo

Im not up to date but i cant believe that no blood was taken from floyd and mosley up to 18 days before the fight!!!! What! After all that fuss tellling us blood testing was vital and it turns out the urine test is better suited?? Cant believe that if it true, what a joke

Yea the 18 days is something but its still random u still have to let them know where u suppose to be and at what time everyday..they could have came anytime between them days but they didn't it could be 21 days or 18 or 7 days before the fight for Pac..u wouldn't have the privilege of them not being on your case cus if u stop at 14 they wouldn't mess wit u one bit..

[fightfan_79]

Many people got taken for a ride there...

What MANY PEOPLE seem to not understand is that it was the USADA's CALL to stop taking blood samples...NOT THE FIGHTERS.....for all Floyd and Shane knew...they would be taking samples up until the morning of the fight.....

Its not like they advertised to both camps that "Alright...from here on out, its just urine samples guys...."

That arguement is one of the weakest I've seen on NSB...and frankly....shows igonorance....

[fightfan_79]

Floyds insistence on mosley taking the tests as well may have convinced pac that floyd and his team were not just targeting him and may have contributed to him changing his mind. Anyway it looks like he is willing to be tested so i dont see the problem now, the fight should be on, no excuses for either side now imo
Im not up to date but i cant believe that no blood was taken from floyd and mosley up to 18 days before the fight!!!! What! After all that fuss tellling us blood testing was vital and it turns out the urine test is better suited?? Cant believe that if it true, what a joke

Well said my friend.....

[BirdSong]

Well the testers must have been happy enough to just go with the urine tests after 18 days and after all their rep is also on the line if they make a mess of it too. Basically they cleared floyd and shane to fight as drug free in their eyes with no blood tests after 18 days. Im amazed at that after all the fuss. I was under the impression (wrongly maybe now) that blood tests were VITAL to ensure a fair fight and not just the threat of blood tests, actual blood tests. If they felt that urine was sufficient then they are the experts arnt they?

[DannYankee]

FAct its called olympic style for a reason fact he agreed to it up to a surtain point fact mayweather is trying to smear Pac out of the ring because hes afraid to fight him in it and all this amounts to one answer that *****'s will never admit .

[BirdSong]

Yea the 18 days is something but its still random u still have to let them know where u suppose to be and at what time everyday..they could have came anytime between them days but they didn't it could be 21 days or 18 or 7 days before the fight for Pac..u wouldn't have the privilege of them not being on your case cus if u stop at 14 they wouldn't mess wit u one bit..

Yeah i take your point of not giving the fighters any totally free time to do as they please, i wonder what can actually be "done" in the 2 weeks before a fight (if a fighter wanted to cheat), and not get caught in urine or a blood test after the fight? I persume most of the training is done at that stage too, but maybe not

[BirdSong]

FAct its called olympic style for a reason fact he agreed to it up to a surtain point fact mayweather is trying to smear Pac out of the ring because hes afraid to fight him in it and all this amounts to one answer that *****'s will never admit .

My take on it is that floyd does want the fight and i think pac will have a very hard time hitting floyd as everyone else does. I thought the 14 day cut off was a fair offer and i still think it is. With pac onboard for testing i dont see what can go wrong now..... fingers crossed

[fightfan_79]

FAct its called olympic style for a reason fact he agreed to it up to a surtain point fact mayweather is trying to smear Pac out of the ring because hes afraid to fight him in it and all this amounts to one answer that *****'s will never admit .

#1 - Read your posts before hitting "submit reply".....

#2 - If he's afraid to fight Pac...why did he fight Mosley....the guy Freddie diddn't want Manny fighting (at that time)?

Intelligent reply only....please

[Alibata]

fightfan, your post is a solid, respectful one that warrants a respectful reply. I think it's sad people seek to discredit Pacquiao's wins by downing his opponents. I thought both Oscar and Cotto would beat him but what do I know? He gets full credit from me, especially the Cotto victory and the manner in which it was done. There is no questioning Pac's skills - he is a true ATG.

I also think it's sad people have to debate against the dumb arguments of d*ckriders to boost their own. No need, Pac's accomplishments stand on their own just fine, regardless of what they say.

So with that said, I ask that you place yourself in Mayweather's shoes. Everyone claimed you were all about the money and not seeking challenges. You agreed to a 50/50 split. Gloves. Weight penalty. But the one thing you requested was spat on, ridiculed and ultimately tossed to the side. A mediator was brought in and you tried to compromise. Instead, the other side laughs at your compromise and makes another fight the next day. Then they go further to mock you by saying that you have no intentions of fighting the only other viable threat out there and the fighter himself (Manny) says you're going to lose to that threat. Furious, you take your compromise off the table and declare that next time, negotiations will take place on different terms.

So what happens? You implement full testing in your next fight and win in dominating fashion against the guy you were avoiding forever. Now you have all the leverage. And a precedent with regards to the testing has been set. Guess who comes crawling back? How does Manny look now to Floyd? If he thought the guy was juicing before, he's convinced now. I too hope this fight will happen. But don't be surprised if it doesn't. And based on the series of events, I think we know where to point the finger.

Way to look at it as a *****.... Yeah Floyd done everything right huh??? unfortunately the world wont see it like you. Who was the paranoid accuser before any request for OST come about.. You come here talking about floyds feelings being laughed at and ****..boo hoo hoo... STHU *****