Why didnt Floyd ever demand OST until he was faced with Pacquaio?

[Reloaded]

14 days was good enough a few months back and now it isn't. dont you floyd fans have minds of your own.

So Manny is not scared of needles now , why did he not except it when it was on the table , here we are 5mths later and both have fought since do you think these deals last forever , Manny is bull**** he should just except the full testing like every other sportsman .

[ballgamessuck]

Should I apologize for hurting your feelings or something? Would that make you feel better? I said that you weren't quick sense you let an obvious example of sarcasm fly right over your head. You just spent a whole paragraph crying as if I've done nothing but call you ****** over and over. This is what I mean when I say that you're disingenuous. This is yet another smokecreen to try and divert attention from the subject at hand.


You claim not to agree with my logic, well what part don't you agree with? The idea that Mayweather is asking for stricter testing to fight Pacquiao because he feels the guy may be dirty? Or the idea that people like you are biased and are completely ionco nsistent with the standards that you hold Mayweather and Pacquiao to? You want to make this about everything but what really matters. This isn't about Mayweather's motives, me personally attacking you, or any of that nonsense. This is about Mayweather making a reasonable request and Pacquiao flip flopping contradicting himself left and right in effort to refuse the request. How about you concentrate on that instead of constantly trying diversionary tactics to derail your own discussion?

Takes a lot more than that to insult me, but people who start launching personal attacks on someone elses intelligence often leave something to be desired in their own right. Why would I attempt to divert attention from the subject of a thread that I started. We disagree. You apparently got upset and started making it personal, I did not. Have a nice day.

[ballgamessuck]

1. Floyd is/was a big Pac fan, been to many of his fights. He has seen Pacs limits and he knows what he can and can't do.

2. Both are pro boxers, they know the sport from the inside, unlike 99.9% of us

3. None of Floyds other 39/40 fighters defied convintional wisdom. Floyd being in the sport, and has seen strange things happen before.

4. Seeing these strange things, knowing that NSAC testing is bogus, knowing Pac, watching Pac from a Pro fighters prospective made him question how legit it was.

5. He knows how Bob Arum operates.

6. Drugs are common in boxing, and I'm sure Floyd has seen the sytem fail more than it worked.

7. Floyd is not "Cleaning up the sport" he's cleaning his fights.. what's wrong with that?

So ask yourself the question "why is it wrong to assure both fighters are clean?" I'm sure we all agree that testing in boxing needs changing, so why would it be wrong to step up and say so?

If that man wants better testing, he has that right, according to the rules he can request better testing. Manny has the rite to refuse also, but refusing comes with question and that's to be expected.
Does Manny care if he's fighting a cheater? I'm sure if Manny were to lose to a fighter, then later he found he'd been cheated he'd be pissed rite? So why not assure a fair/clean fight with better testing?

I'm convinced that the people who are against this better testing are affraid that
1. Maybe it will affect how the fighter performs.
2. He may be using and if its helping him win then **** it.

So I hope I answered your question.

Well articulated, green K as promised.

[fcastro1]

The 14 day compromise was revoked a few months back. I'd bet that this fact has been pointed out to you several different times. Why are you so slow?

you agreed that 14 days was enough time. so what has changed your mind. maybe because your just a floyd *** rider.

[NesNY]

that "Sr. ain't the one stopping Pac from taking tests" is such a fallacious argument that it doesn't deserve much counter argument.

So with the same fallacy, there's no "take the tests if you're clean" argument if Sr. doesn't accuse Manny Pacquiao of cheating.

Sorry, man. Sr. is scared ****less of Manny fighting his son.




"not because I think he can whoop my son. But I have MY OWN REASONS..." Uh, yeah...we know. Manny's the most dangerous Southpaw in existence.

[ballgamessuck]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fcastro1
14 days was good enough a few months back and now it isn't. dont you floyd fans have minds of your own.

The 14 day compromise was revoked a few months back. I'd bet that this fact has been pointed out to you several different times. Why are you so slow?

Why do you insist on calling into question the mental capacity of those who disagree with you? Are you a certified genius, or are the rest of us just so ****** that it makes you look smart by comparison. In my experience, those who "talk down" to others are just not very bright themselves, and often so ****** they dont know it. Can you post a reply without a personal attack attached to it? I have read and comprehend all of your arguments Thatnickuh, and at the end of the day none of your arguments have convinced me that the real reason, in Floyds mind, is anything other than he feels some doubt in his ability to beat Paq. If you can stop with the childish insults and check out my posting history, you will see that I do not pull for Floyd and dislike him, but I have also started several threads praising his talent and accomplishments. Cixthree posted a very respectable, solid argument against mine, no problems there.

[thatnickuh]

Takes a lot more than that to insult me, but people who start launching personal attacks on someone elses intelligence often leave something to be desired in their own right. Why would I attempt to divert attention from the subject of a thread that I started. We disagree. You apparently got upset and started making it personal, I did not. Have a nice day.

I have no problem accepting the fact that you're tapping out, I'm just embarrassed for you. You want to keep crying about me questioning your intelligence? Okay. Why would you want to derail your own discussion? Maybe it's because you realize that you're looking silly? Regardless, I'm satisfied knowing that I refuted your nonsensical arguments. Peace.

[ballgamessuck]

I have no problem accepting the fact that you're tapping out, I'm just embarrassed for you. You want to keep crying about me questioning your intelligence? Okay. Why would you want to derail your own discussion? Maybe it's because you realize that you're looking silly? Regardless, I'm satisfied knowing that I refuted your nonsensical arguments. Peace.

One more time, Im not tapping. I have told you repeatedly that I dont care if you attempt to insult my intelligence, it just shows you in a negative light. Several times you expressed frustration that I could not understand your logic, but I do. You dont seem to be able to understand that comprehending and agreeing are two different things. You continue to insinuate that I am crying over your insults, when in fact I find them childish. As for "tapping out", go watch wrestling.

[SkillspayBills]

He believes Pac might be on steroids. You are either asking a question you know the answer to or an ignoramus.

[Vito Corleone]

you agreed that 14 days was enough time. so what has changed your mind. maybe because your just a floyd *** rider.

Castro,

If 14 days was so unreasonable to manny before, why is it fine now.
What changed? What happened to "Commission Rules Only"/
What happened to "It's like giving Floyd the first three rounds"?

This is what people wonder about....the flip-flop.