Why didnt Floyd ever demand OST until he was faced with Pacquaio?

[boxing_pundit85]

Already admitted that this is possible.

then you answered the question posed in the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ballgamessuck]

then you answered the question posed in the topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The point is every athlete in the history of sports has possibly used PEDs, including Floyd in every fight except his last one. Why did Floyd wait until he was faced with Paq to demand testing. Nice try.

[thatnickuh]

Do you think that there is even a possibility that the change we have seen in Paq over the last few years is a result hard work and Roach's committment to making Paq a more complete fighter? Ball is in your court...........

Why didn't you othero question since I've answered all of your questions up until this point? You people are just disingenuous.

Yes, there's a possibility that Pacquiao is not on PEDs. Does the possibility that he's not on PEDs render Mayweather's request out of line? Heck no!

You are so hell bent on defending Floyd/blaming Paq that you arent willing to listen to anything else. So if I am "not that quick", by your own logic, neither are you.

I said that you arent that quick because the other poster's obvious sarcasm flew right over your head, not because you're defending Pacquiao. You don't even seem capable of following my logic.

Yes, I'm defending Mayweather. I'm defending his right to request testing that would ensure that he and his opponents are clean when they enter the ring. I'm not defending him in any other way though. You're defending Pacquiao and his decision to duck strict drug testing even though he claims to be clean, all while criticizing Mayweather for asking for stricter drug testing. Which is the more honorable position?

As for your claim of using the same tired pathetic talking points, nothing is more tired or pathetic than all of the excuses for demanding OST in the first place.

Contradiction Alert. 1st of all, Mayweather has not given any excuses for wanting the test. He has said that he's requesting the stricter testing to ensure himself of an even playing field. Since we all know that there are ways of beating the current drug testing system, that reason alone justifies his request. 2nd, you just got through saying that you don't fault Mayweather for requesting stricter testing

And I didnt fault Floyd for wanting OST's, just dont think that the reason he is giving publicly is the one in his mind.

Yet you continue to focus on his motives for asking for the test instead of focusing on why Pacquiao is ducking the tests. If you don't have a problem with his request, then stop trying to make a big deal out of his motives. It's a reasonable request regardless of his motives. You do this in an attempt to cloud the issue and take the attention off of Pacquiao. You refuse to question Pacquiao and why he is ducking the testing. Why is that?

And if this thread is such a waste why have you responded to it ten times? I at least admitted the remote possibility that Paq's performance is based on cheating, can you bring yourself to admit that it is hard work on the part of Paq and Roach?

I said that when you were being unreasonable and refused to take any other point of view in consideration.

How can I make such an admission when I don't know what's true and what's not? Pacquiao could very well be clean and been clean for his entire career like he claims. Or, he could be a dirty cheater who deserves to be banned from the ring. Complying with random blood testing for a fight with Mayweather would pretty much settle the issue either way. He says he's clean but I haven't heard 1 legit reason for not complying with the stricter drug testing. All I've seen is contradictions and weak excuses from he and his team, and idiocy+ Mayweather hate from his fans.

[thatnickuh]

The point is every athlete in the history of sports has possibly used PEDs, including Floyd in every fight except his last one. Why did Floyd wait until he was faced with Paq to demand testing. Nice try.

The question has been answered man. You not being able to accept the answer is your problem, not anybody else's.

[Jim Jeffries]

Isn't it obvious?:floyd::floyd::floyd:

[Reloaded]

Someone with inside information told them he was .

All around the gyms were rumors that Manny was using PEDS .

Should Floyd ignore the gossip , no he asked for OST and Manny refused , that refusal is more a reflection of guilt than anything that has been said by anybody .

Its not a hard thing to comply with random OST 1000s of athletes do every year , Manny refused and thats a slur on the sport of boxing his fans and his own stature .

[M.I.C.]

Why Floyd asking for OST with Pac? Cause he know's a PED user when he see's one. Even Golden Boy in their legal defense has cited the unusual growth of Pac's head. It aint no coincidence.

[Vito Corleone]

would you still support the random blood testing even if mayweather didn't insist OST demands before? or is it just because mayweather says it?

Would you still be saying "Commission Rules Only" if Pacquiao had not did a 180 flip-flop last week?

[ballgamessuck]

Why didn't you othero question since I've answered all of your questions up until this point? You people are just disingenuous.

Yes, there's a possibility that Pacquiao is not on PEDs. Does the possibility that he's not on PEDs render Mayweather's request out of line? Heck no!


I said that you arent that quick because the other poster's obvious sarcasm flew right over your head, not because you're defending Pacquiao. You don't even seem capable of following my logic.

Yes, I'm defending Mayweather. I'm defending his right to request testing that would ensure that he and his opponents are clean when they enter the ring. I'm not defending him in any other way though. You're defending Pacquiao and his decision to duck strict drug testing even though he claims to be clean, all while criticizing Mayweather for asking for stricter drug testing. Which is the more honorable position?

Contradiction Alert. 1st of all, Mayweather has not given any excuses for wanting the test. He has said that he's requesting the stricter testing to ensure himself of an even playing field. Since we all know that there are ways of beating the current drug testing system, that reason alone justifies his request. 2nd, you just got through saying that you don't fault Mayweather for requesting stricter testingYet you continue to focus on his motives for asking for the test instead of focusing on why Pacquiao is ducking the tests. If you don't have a problem with his request, then stop trying to make a big deal out of his motives. It's a reasonable request regardless of his motives. You do this in an attempt to cloud the issue and take the attention off of Pacquiao. You refuse to question Pacquiao and why he is ducking the testing. Why is that?

I said that when you were being unreasonable and refused to take any other point of view in consideration.

How can I make such an admission when I don't know what's true and what's not? Pacquiao could very well be clean and been clean for his entire career like he claims. Or, he could be a dirty cheater who deserves to be banned from the ring. Complying with random blood testing for a fight with Mayweather would pretty much settle the issue either way. He says he's clean but I haven't heard 1 legit reason for not complying with the stricter drug testing. All I've seen is contradictions and weak excuses from he and his team, and idiocy+ Mayweather hate from his fans.

As for your first question, I answered it about twenty posts ago. You have posted on this thread twelve times and the only thing you have proven is that Floyd claims to suspect Paq of PED usage. You claim to suspect that I am not very intelligent, mostly because I dont agree with your logic, and since I dont agree with your logic you resort to personal attacks on my mental capacities. That, my freind, is truly pathetic. I used your own logic against you several times in this discussion, you either ignored it because you had no answer, or you failed to comprehend, but I will not stoop to insulting you personally. One more thing, could you define this word that you used at the start of your post. othero, what the hell is that?

[ELPacman]

Because Fraud can't fathom the idea of stepping in the ring with a true legend. The man that shows you how it's done. He's still in shock and wondering how the so called small guy dared to face Cotto and Clottey at the upperweights. 2 opponents in which Fraud would have had NOTHING to do with. Lol. Manny's the man!