Why didnt Floyd ever demand OST until he was faced with Pacquaio?

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  • MindBat
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    #61
    First of all, for those screaming "Because Floyd is scared" -- You should know by now Floyd fought the #2 man that Manny refused to fight to face
    Clottey instead.

    Second, If you care to dig up past articles on this site and others, you would also know that Ariza has claimed that Manny has no idea what goes into his supplements. What athlete on the planet has no idea what goes into his supplements and into his own body? No one's been able to answer that one conclusively.

    If you put 2 and 2 together, you'll realize there is a reason for concern and speculation rather than a fear of fighting the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

    There's more concern about the ultimate conclusion of the fight if Manny and Floyd meet, which is understandable, since all across the board the majority favor Floyd to win.

    End of.

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    • boxing_pundit85
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      #62
      Originally posted by ballgamessuck
      I am really hoping to get some serious Floyd fans on here to explain to me why they think after forty fights without OST, it suddenly became an issue when the probability of fighting Paq came up. And again, dont hit me with the "why dont Paq take the test crap?" The question is "why didnt the first forty people Floyd fought take the test?" Why? They were never asked to. Why not?
      because, in all probability, manny is taking steroids or some illegal supplement of some kind. does that answer your question?

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      • ballgamessuck
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        #63
        Originally posted by thatnickuh
        This is a question that only Mayweather himself can answer. I'm not Mayweather nor am I privy to his inner thoughts. I don't even think that the reason matters. He may have heard something through the g****vine about Pacquiao, he may know that PEDs are everywhere in pro sports and just wants to be safe, he may actually be scared that Pacquiao is too good to be true and just wants to make sure, ect. Any of those are valid reasons for his request. I'm dumbfounded at how you all are trying to fault the guy for wanting to make sure that his opponent isn't cheating. That alone illustrates you all's bias. If the situation were reversed, no way you'd defend Mayweather/blame Pacquiao.

        This all sounds like an excuse for Pacquiao to use PEDs against Mayweather. Like I've said before, I honestly don't think that you people care if Pacquiao is cheating or not. I've answered your questions so let me ask you this straight up, is there a possibility that Pacquiao is using PEDs? One more question, do you even care if Pacquiao is using PEDs or not?
        Do you think that there is even a possibility that the change we have seen in Paq over the last few years is a result hard work and Roach's committment to making Paq a more complete fighter? Ball is in your court...........

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          #64
          Originally posted by ballgamessuck
          Do you think that there is even a possibility that the change we have seen in Paq over the last few years is a result hard work and Roach's committment to making Paq a more complete fighter? Ball is in your court...........
          yeah, punching power, stamina, and speed often improve dramatically after 25. roach and hard work did all that.

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          • ballgamessuck
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            #65
            Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
            because, in all probability, manny is taking steroids or some illegal supplement of some kind. does that answer your question?
            No, because that is not an answer, it is a totally unfounded and unjustified accusation. I ask you, can you admit the possibility that the improvement in Paq over the last few years is the result of hard work and Roach's committment to making Paq a more complete fighter? You are the second person I have asked this question, I hope to get an intelligent answer.

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              #66
              Originally posted by mesher
              We all know, *****'s know, everyone knows, Floyd is outright scared of Pac.
              This will be one fo the easiest fights of Floyd's careeer. There is nothing to be scared about. Pac has no skill unless you are plodding directly towards him or are completely weight-drained. I guarantee you that about a week before the fight, you will be on this board whining that Pac is "too small" for Mayweather. You will also use that excuse after Mayweather KO's Pac's ass. If the fight is made, Pac will land on average fewer punches than Mosley did ( 92 total punches) and possibly as few as Marquez (67 total punches) and none of them will be effective. I say, on average because this fight won't last 12 rounds, so he will average about the same number per round as Mosley.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ballgamessuck
                No, because that is not an answer, it is a totally unfounded and unjustified accusation. I ask you, can you admit the possibility that the improvement in Paq over the last few years is the result of hard work and Roach's committment to making Paq a more complete fighter? You are the second person I have asked this question, I hope to get an intelligent answer.
                lol can i admit the possibility? what a dumb way to approach this. how about look at his career and form an opininon. can u admit the possibility that he is on steroids? hpw about that?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  This will be one fo the easiest fights of Floyd's careeer. There is nothing to be scared about. Pac has no skill unless you are plodding directly towards him or are completely weight-drained. I guarantee you that about a week before the fight, you will be on this board whining that Pac is "too small" for Mayweather. You will also use that excuse after Mayweather KO's Pac's ass. If the fight is made, Pac will land on average fewer punches than Mosley did ( 92 total punches) and possibly as few as Marquez (67 total punches) and none of them will be effective. I say, on average because this fight won't last 12 rounds, so he will average about the same number per round as Mosley.
                  If this fight is so easy, and so much money is to be made, why did Floyd come up with a litany of stipulations to start with. For example, he initially wanted the fight at 154 with 10 ounce gloves, then he said he wouldnt fight in cowboys stadium, when all that gets worked out he suddenly comes up with OST. We are back to square one. He isnt trying to clean up boxing, he is just full of ****.

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                  • ballgamessuck
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by thatnickuh
                    So i t's Pacquiao who has the mental edge right? Mayweather i s scared that Pacquiao is too good to be true, right? So why not take the tests and make the fight knowing that your opponent is scared of how good you are?Obviously you can't detect sarcasm even when it's slapping you in the face. That guy is on your side. No wonder you're having a hard time comprehending the points that I'm trying to make to you. You're just not that quick. You're so hell bent on defending Pacquiao/blaming Mayweather by any means necessary, that you aren't willing to listen to anything else. This was a waste of a thread because it's obvious that your "mind" is completely made up. You're just going to dism i ss an ybody that you don't agree with using the same tired pathetic talking points that have already been refuted countless times.
                    You are so hell bent on defending Floyd/blaming Paq that you arent willing to listen to anything else. So if I am "not that quick", by your own logic, neither are you. As for your claim of using the same tired pathetic talking points, nothing is more tired or pathetic than all of the excuses for demanding OST in the first place. And if this thread is such a waste why have you responded to it ten times? I at least admitted the remote possibility that Paq's performance is based on cheating, can you bring yourself to admit that it is hard work on the part of Paq and Roach?

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                    • ballgamessuck
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
                      lol can i admit the possibility? what a dumb way to approach this. how about look at his career and form an opininon. can u admit the possibility that he is on steroids? hpw about that?
                      Already admitted that this is possible.

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