Pacquiao agrees: "Let's see if drug testing is really the Reason"

[versatech]

Whatever man, i just answered th question whether pbf made a mistake which a lot of pbf fans denied, he came in overweight that's why he paid the penalty.Agree? now about pac being overweight ,all i know is he was already disqualified for not making the weight against the thai fighter but its no longer the issue. the 10 mil penalty works both ways if you are insinuating that pac has an issue of being overweight for a fight then it's it will work against him don't you think? Let support to see this fight ! No more excuses!

[Ray*]

coach web do you think using xycolain is right?

Lol what sort of question is that?

[Ray*]

Whatever man, i just answered th question whether pbf made a mistake which a lot of pbf fans denied, he came in overweight that's why he paid the penalty.Agree? now about pac being overweight ,all i know is he was already disqualified for not making the weight against the thai fighter but its no longer the issue. the 10 mil penalty works both ways if you are insinuating that pac has an issue of being overweight for a fight then it's it will work against him don't you think? Let support to see this fight ! No more excuses!

Actually it doesnt, If Pac comes in overweight he doesnt get to pay 10M because it was him who wanted that stipulation in the contract, The OST however goes both way (Both fighter get tested randomly)

[megadeth]

coach web do you think using xycolain is right?

Definition:
A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function. There is no single, precise definition.

So, this includes the things we would typically call "drugs" as well as just about everything else.

If its not a banned substance, then it would be no different than the supplement ****tails that Ariza makes up for Manny.

[versatech]

Actually it doesnt, If Pac comes in overweight he doesnt get to pay 10M because it was him who wanted that stipulation in the contract, The OST however goes both way (Both fighter get tested randomly)

Do you have any link for proof? if that's a fact, i will stand corrected!

[j.one]

Zero is the number...not 14 not 7, 0 gets the fight done.

[fcastro1]

Definition:
A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function. There is no single, precise definition.

So, this includes the things we would typically call "drugs" as well as just about everything else.

If its not a banned substance, then it would be no different than the supplement ****tails that Ariza makes up for Manny.

but it is banned in 50 states! fans cant say we are all for osts to clean up the sport then say well xycolain is o.k because its legal in one state. at the end of the day it is a drug that helps you perform to a higher level than what is naturally possible. If you are a fighter that have bad hands then you should not be a boxer and find a new profession. We cant pick and choose which drugs are right or wrong. All drugs should be wrong.

[fcastro1]

Its not about rather I think its right or not. Its legal. Football players (I played ball), are able to take cortisone shots before a game to kill their pain and go hit people and not get hurt and it is perfectly legal. Its a painkiller.

boxing is all about inflicting pain and withstanding pain. If you need some type of drugs to relieve you of pain then its cheating. If you cant fight natural then you should not fight at all.

[djcmd]

What seems to be the issue with a lot of gentlemen posting in this particular thread is that even though Mr. Pacquiao has agreed to a 14 day "cutoff" date, that still is not considered random drug testing. This response will not be about bashing against Mr. Pacquiao or Mr. Mayweather, this is simply informing many who seem to overlook the real situations.

The first thing that many of you should do is go to theboxingtruth.com and listen to the radio show from last night when Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA was there doing a live interview and took questions from callers. He basically broke it down saying that even though the rmedia has been reporting that the Mayweather-Mosley blood testing ended 18 days prior to the fight, 'THE TESTING DID NOT STOP". He also gave an explanation of why USADA decided not to take anymore blood until the night of the fight
As you listen to the interview, he talks about when testing for HGH, CIR's(Designer Steroids), EPO's, Medicines, Supplements, etc every athlete before agreeing to the testing is educated about the process. He stated back in Nov. 2009, when Mr. Mayweather & Mr. Pacquiao first started negotiations for their super fight, he and representatives of USADA, sat down with both parties to educate them.

Which gets to the next thing at hand. Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that there was a cutoff date talked about during the first negotiatins, where Mr. Pacquiao wanted 24 days and Mr. Mayweather said he wanted 14 days. Now that Mr. Pacquiao has emerged supposedly saying that he will accept the 14 day cut off, (which I don't believe should be agreed upon period due to legal reasons), Mr. Mayweather is either supposed to agree, or like some of you say, will try and come up with something else to not fight him. Well to quiet that storm, Mr. Tygart again wanted to clear the air and said that no matter what the fighters agree to, USADA "has the right to test blood & urine all the way up to the fight".He said that the intent is what will deter athletes from taking the chance of using anything illegal. Plus he also said that USADA can possibly find out through the blood testing if the athletes may have been "juicing" within a 6 month time frame after they have stopped. He also stated that there is only 3 things that will make any athlete shoot down the best possible testing procedures available.

1. Fee, which there is a price for USADA doing the test in which the promoters(If we are talking about boxing), would pay for that.

2. Inconvenience, in which USADA can come test you at any given time in which they will not come in the wee hours of the night.

3. Cheating, if in fact the athlete knows that they are using or have been using HGH's, EPO's, CIR's(Designer Steroids), other banned substances, and they don't want to get exposed.

Which brings me to the last thing. Ask yourself this. 1.When was the last time that Mr. Pacquiao has been tested? November of 2009 for the Cotto fight correct? He only did a urine test which can't detect HGH, CIR's(Designer Steroids), or EPO's. 2. Why would Mr. Pacquiao agree to the 14 days now but didn't back when they attempted the first negotiations? 3. If USADA educated both parties back in Nov 2009, and Mr. Tygart said that they have a 6 month time frame where they can detect if an athlete may have been using something previous but have stopped, hasn't it been 6 months since Mr. Pacquiao's been tested? 4. Do Mr. Mayweather really need this fight now since there is so many other issues that comes into play with making this fight happen? 5. If this fight don't happen wouldn't Mr. Pacquiao fans still be his fans, and Mr. Mayweather fans, still be his? 6. Aren't these the 2 biggest names in boxing today? Exactly, so they will still make their money and further legacy whether they say they are not doing it or not.

So all I'm saying is, look deeper into this 14 day cutoff talk, and be open-minded about the possibilities. Sometimes you can't judge a book by it's cover, you have to actually open the book and read, even if you like the book only for it's cover.

Everyone have a good day.

[Nuurzhaelan]

boxing is all about inflicting pain and withstanding pain. If you need some type of drugs to relieve you of pain then its cheating. If you cant fight natural then you should not fight at all.

So...no more cutmen? No more coagulation agents? Where do you draw the line?