Pacquiao agrees: "Let's see if drug testing is really the Reason"

[maguirre]

My guess is 'Pacquiao need to become his own boss' or 'Pacquiao take money to the Philippines and I make it rain here. Red, white, and blue' or 'vacation time'. But hey, maybe he'll surprise us all and say he wants the fight now (then say you put words in his mouth and he never said that afterwards).

Hop to it, lemme know how it goes

Dumb *****s have always circle jerked with this issue. Only reason why they keep making this drug testing still relevant is because they had to until Floyd mans up and ready to fight Pac. Sample: when Floyd said "Pac is next" dumb *****s were all jumping and bragging saying "see he wants Pac". You'd wonder what happened to the OST issue. Later, Floyd denies saying it and they're back with the silly issue.

:-|

[ThePrince]

That's because you only favor information that confirms your preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true. In other words, you want it to be true.

Arum is not a reliable source. Ariza is with Pacquiao every day, he would know better what Pacquiao's position is. And I'm sure he doesn't have Pac's approval to go around, saying things that could jeopardize the fight, if it isn't true.

My hunch is, Pacquiao has agreed to previous stipulations of a cutoff date. But because his answers are always so vague, nobody hears it. If I'm wrong, lets sit him down and get to the bottom of it.

Oh, I see. So when Pacquiao says 'talk to my promoter' what he really means is 'talk to my conditioning coach'?

Arum is not a reliable source as his promoter and the one who draws out his contracts and arranged his fights, but the guy who holds a stop watch when he jogs is the go to guy for negotiations? Yeah, that story checks out. What does Buboy have to say on the matter?

So if Ariza is the authority when it comes to negotiations, should we listen to what Roger and Sr say in regard to Floyd, ie:

"My son will never fight Manny Pacquiao... I'm afraid for my son's life if he fights Pacquiao"

"It would be ****** for Floyd to fight Pacquiao after Ortiz... Floyd is definitely not fighting Pacquiao next"

Etc, and so on.

The fighter, Manny Pacquiao, and the promoter, Bob Arum, have gone on record that random, unlimited olympic style testing is not an issue and they agree to it. So, like you promised... run to Floyd and let him know, then see what he says.

I'll be waiting on his response (and the PPV #s for the Ortiz fight, I'm living on borrowed time here fellas...)

[STFU!!]

Stopped reading right there. Since when was Alex Ariza involved in fight negotiations. Could've sworn that was Bob Arum's department, but I guess Ariza is now his promoter too. Like I said, take the news to Floyd like you said you would and let me know what he says.

My guess is 'Pacquiao need to become his own boss' or 'Pacquiao take money to the Philippines and I make it rain here. Red, white, and blue' or 'vacation time'. But hey, maybe he'll surprise us all and say he wants the fight now (then say you put words in his mouth and he never said that afterwards).

Hop to it, lemme know how it goes

ariza is his strength and conditioning coach and is in training camp with him right now, from those videos timothy sladeck puts up you can tell they talk daily about what goes on in boxing. Why would they talk about may vs ortiz and not bring up drug testing. Sure that part was cut out.He should know whats going on. And arums usada comments prove he didn't agree in 2010.
Arum did say testing wasn't an issue, but now he says floyd will be in prision
in 2012.

[jtiger777]

lol @ you guys still talking about this subject....

[STFU!!]

Oh, I see. So when Pacquiao says 'talk to my promoter' what he really means is 'talk to my conditioning coach'?

Arum is not a reliable source as his promoter and the one who draws out his contracts and arranged his fights, but the guy who holds a stop watch when he jogs is the go to guy for negotiations? Yeah, that story checks out. What does Buboy have to say on the matter?

So if Ariza is the authority when it comes to negotiations, should we listen to what Roger and Sr say in regard to Floyd, ie:

"My son will never fight Manny Pacquiao... I'm afraid for my son's life if he fights Pacquiao"

"It would be ****** for Floyd to fight Pacquiao after Ortiz... Floyd is definitely not fighting Pacquiao next"

Etc, and so on.

The fighter, Manny Pacquiao, and the promoter, Bob Arum, have gone on record that random, unlimited olympic style testing is not an issue and they agree to it. So, like you promised... run to Floyd and let him know, then see what he says.

I'll be waiting on his response (and the PPV #s for the Ortiz fight, I'm living on borrowed time here fellas...)

Rodger and sr also said pacquiao was on peds and that floyd would beat his ass. The qoutes are taken out of context anyway. they are saying they will not fight because pacquiao want take the test.

you obviously didn't read new york times article, floyd makes all the decisions on his side. He stated he was open to fighting pacquiao recently.

[SoulByThePound]

How does it not make sense? xycolain is a drug that helps you perform to a level that is not naturally possible. What is the difference between that drug and steroids? And how am i emotional. im talking to people with complete respect, no cursing. i cant give my view without you thinking im emotional.

xycolaine arent peds, if anything it can paralyze you in the long run, dude said its the same as peds lol

[ThePrince]

Rodger and sr also said pacquiao was on peds and that floyd would beat his ass. The qoutes are taken out of context anyway. they are saying they will not fight because pacquiao want take the test.

In Context:

On whether he [Roger Mayweather] believes Floyd would be ready to fight Pacquiao in his next fight if he beats Victor Ortiz:

“Well I wouldn’t think he would fight Pacquiao right after fighting Victor Ortiz. I mean it would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao after fighting Victor Ortiz! Floyd needs fights. He needs to be active. Don’t get me wrong, Floyd is the greatest fighter out there, period. Right now in today’s boxing Floyd is the greatest fighter out there. But at the same time I don’t think that Floyd can do this. Floyd needs tune-ups like anybody else. It ain’t no different than any other fighter if you are going to compete with a guy who has been active all the time.”

http://www.**********boxingradio.com...rtiz%E2%80%9D/

you obviously didn't read new york times article, floyd makes all the decisions on his side. He stated he was open to fighting pacquiao recently.

Oh yeah, he said that. His direct quote, on video, during a press conference was "And yes, Manny Pacquiao... you're next".

Then he said reporters were putting words in his mouth and he never said that.

True story.

[cupocity303]

Oh, I see. So when Pacquiao says 'talk to my promoter' what he really means is 'talk to my conditioning coach'?

Arum is not a reliable source as his promoter and the one who draws out his contracts and arranged his fights, but the guy who holds a stop watch when he jogs is the go to guy for negotiations? Yeah, that story checks out. What does Buboy have to say on the matter?

So if Ariza is the authority when it comes to negotiations, should we listen to what Roger and Sr say in regard to Floyd, ie:

You are arguing with Ad-Hominem's and useless strawman tactics. Why would Ariza say anything to Reporters on camera, unless he knew what he was talking about? Did Pacquiao go on record since Ariza's statement and refute anything he said? Is Arum the one spending hours with him at a time, talking about Floyd's tantrum with Larry Merchant?

Arum being his promoter is irrelevant, he is not his nearest representative. And considering the reports that Manny wanted to audit his finances and dealing with Top Rank should be a good indicator.

[ThePrince]

You are arguing with Ad-Hominem's and useless strawman tactics. Why would Ariza say anything to Reporters on camera, unless he knew what he was talking about? Did Pacquiao go on record since Ariza's statement and refute it? Is Arum the one spending hours with him at a time, talking about Floyd's tantrum with Larry Merchant?

Arum being his promoter is irrelevant, he is not his nearest representative. And considering the reports that Manny wanted to audit his finances and dealing with Top Rank should be a good indicator.

What the **** are you talking about?

Arum conducts ALL of Pacquiao's business when it comes to arranging fights and drawing up contracts. Alex Ariza towels off Manny and holds his stop watch while he jogs. Alex Ariza does not represent Manny in any way, shape, or form. He's not his promoter, he's not his lawyer, he's his strength and conditioning coach... that's it.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

[SoulByThePound]

You are arguing with Ad-Hominem's and useless strawman tactics. Why would Ariza say anything to Reporters on camera, unless he knew what he was talking about? Did Pacquiao go on record since Ariza's statement and refute anything he said? Is Arum the one spending hours with him at a time, talking about Floyd's tantrum with Larry Merchant?

Arum being his promoter is irrelevant, he is not his nearest representative. And considering the reports that Manny wanted to audit his finances and dealing with Top Rank should be a good indicator.

arum makes the decisions on whom pac fights period