David Haye vs Chagaev

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  • Pirao
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    #31
    Originally posted by Ryn0
    I'd say he's alot better than Peter and he holds advantages over all of them since he's faster than both Klitschko's and IMO hits harder (maybe less so the Peter but Peter is slow and deliberate)

    I don't condone his ducking, which it looks like he's doing (for whatever reason) but I'd say he poses a much bigger threat that those fighters.
    How do you figure that? IMO it's the typical case of people overrating fighters with KO power (which Haye still hasn't showed much of at HW BTW). Haye struggling against the only top 10 fighter he has faced in Valuev and his weak chin indicates to me that he doesn't have any chance at all against Vitali, and only a slight puncher's chance against Wlad.

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    • BostonGuy
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      #32
      Seriously, who voted for Chagaev?...
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      Last edited by BostonGuy; 03-09-2011, 03:41 AM.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #33
        Originally posted by BostonGuy
        Seriously, who voted for Chagaev?...
        TS made the noob-mistake of not making the poll public.

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        • Joeyzagz
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          #34
          Originally posted by BostonGuy
          Seriously, who voted for Chagaev?...
          Count the number of sister fans who invaded this thread and youll get your answer. I think Braddman is the only one who voted Haye, but thats probably because he is a mod now. The rest are psycho.

          TS made the noob-mistake of not making the poll public.
          People tend not to vote when its public. When its private you can really see how many *******s are out there. So far its 7, not hard to deduce most of that crowd.
          Last edited by Joeyzagz; 05-22-2010, 06:16 PM.

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          • beez721
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            #35
            Originally posted by Soir
            Michael Grant was undefeated and number 1 at one point and Lennox destroyed him in a round and a half. That doesnt mean he is a great addition to Lennox's resume' I doubt Grant would even make top 5.

            The point is none of these undefeated fighters like Calvin Brock were really that good to begin with. Brock would get massaccred if he existed in the 90's and 70's so the 2000's are no different.

            What is Wlads most memorable fight? Honestly he doesnt really have one, the Brewster and Sanders loses would probably make the top of the list, but none of wins are really that great or memorable. He has a very anemic resume'.
            its still worlds above haye's resume. how on earth you can think the klits need him more is beyond me. haye's best heavyweight win was an old john ruiz who was outclassed by former middleweights in his prime

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            • Mr. Philadel
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              #36
              Haye beats Chagaev imo....but that won't take away the "COWARD" title he has won amongst boxing fans all over ....Haye is a disgrace!!

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              • Gordon_Gekko
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                #37
                I think Haye's gonna fight Chagaev as he has to.

                Then look to fight a Klitschko next year.

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                • nomadman
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                  #38
                  I must be the only one that was semi-impressed by Chagaev last night. He still showed a lot of handspeed and aggression, and pretty much outclassed Meehan (which was what he was supposed to do in fairness). He'd easily be Haye's toughest fight at HW. Aside from the difficulties of facing a southpaw, Chags fights with a cautious/aggressive style that doesn't give his opponent too many opportunities to attack without getting sharply countered in return. On the outside, his left hand is still very straight and quick, and he has the knack of throwing it at the right time to catch his opponents when they're least expecting it. On the inside he effectively turns his left into a hook, and has a good if ugly ability to smother his opponents' work while getting in his own. He doesn't possess much power, but has a pretty good chin and a lot of heart. I can definitely see Haye getting tagged more than a few times by that left if the fight doesn't end quickly. I can also (ironically enough) see Haye being able to take the shots to land his own. Interesting matchup, and more competitive than a lot of people believe.

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                  • Boxing Scene
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Gordon_Gekko
                    I think Haye's gonna fight Chagaev as he has to.

                    Then look to fight a Klitschko next year.
                    He doesn't have to fight Chagaev. He supposedly has an optional defense available he can use to fight Wlad.

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BostonGuy
                      You need to make the polls public so we can hold posters accountable...
                      Soir is not intelligent enough to understand that. He's just a silly Haye fangirl.

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