David Haye vs Chagaev

[BattlingNelson]

Haye is certainly a disgrace and a joke. Tell the truth, brother!

I agree. speed will do it. and Khan's chin is glass unlike Super Brian Nielsens!

Great post!

Super Brian rules!!

He has a chin of iron. Unfortunately he has a knee made of unboiled spaghetti so he is likely to have footwork only slightly better than that of the little mermaid.

[Boxing Scene]

Haye does not need the Klitschkos as much as they need him. Its really sad when you need a former cruiserweight with only 3 bouts at Heavyweight just to make your legacy.

Klitschko resume' is garbage, and it will remain that way until Haye decides he wants to fight one of them. I fully support Haye facing Adamek, Solis or Chagaev, while the brothers twist in the wind and get old.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Wlad's resume is garbage, he has many many undefeated #1 contenders on his resume, and to be fair, Haye does not.

[Steelhammer2011]

FAO: Soir the ******

Wlad has a very impressive resume

- IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world

- 48 KOs in 54 wins

- olympic gold medalist

- has made 15 dominant world title defences

- has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)

- has defeated tons of top contenders:

Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc....

[slickfox]

if vitali retires he will come back at 45 just to give haye the beating he been ducking

[Steelhammer2011]

Wlad's resume is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times better than Haye's weak resume

Haye's resume

old shot John "9 losses" Ruiz

old shot Valuev (coming off embarrassing loss to 80 year old shot Holyfield)

old shot Barrett (coming off 2nd round KO loss to Cliff "22 losses" Couser)

old shot Mormeck (coming off KO loss to O'Neil Bell)

glass chinned bum Maccarinelli


Haye still hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse

[Pirao]

Soir has to be the most pathetic fan of a fighter on earth. Most fight fans that I know want their fighters to fight the best and win, instead Soir condones Haye's ducking of the Klitschkos and wants him to fight them when they're old, can you get any more pathetic? Lol at the Klitschkos needing Haye, Haye is no better than Chagaev, Ibragimov or Peter.

[Mushroom]

Wlad's resume is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times better than Haye's weak resume

Haye's resume

old shot John "9 losses" Ruiz
old shot Valuev (coming off embarrassing loss to 80 year old shot Holyfield)
old shot Barrett (coming off 2nd round KO loss to Cliff "22 losses" Couser)
ols shot Mormeck (coming off KO loss to O'Neil Bell)
glass chinned bum Maccarinelli

Obviously but Wlads resume is besides the point as this thread in essence is for people to discuss the outcome of a potential Haye/Chagaev fight.

[Joeyzagz]

I wouldn't go as far as saying Wlad's resume is garbage, he has many many undefeated #1 contenders on his resume, and to be fair, Haye does not.

Michael Grant was undefeated and number 1 at one point and Lennox destroyed him in a round and a half. That doesnt mean he is a great addition to Lennox's resume' I doubt Grant would even make top 5.

The point is none of these undefeated fighters like Calvin Brock were really that good to begin with. Brock would get massaccred if he existed in the 90's and 70's so the 2000's are no different.

What is Wlads most memorable fight? Honestly he doesnt really have one, the Brewster and Sanders loses would probably make the top of the list, but none of wins are really that great or memorable. He has a very anemic resume'.

[Ryn0]

LMAO @ Feedback loop, I never thought of it that way. I'm on a seesaw about Chagaev's defense, if he has enough to block Haye's punches. Also it's going to be an awkward fight for Haye I think.

Actually, Haye has faced two guys with that high type of guard. Mormeck and Fragomeni which both employed head movement.

They caused him some trouble but Haye was able to tag them more than most fighters would and put them away.

The styles thats seems to trouble Haye are in fighters like Fragomeni in the early rounds before Haye's power got to him. Haye cannot fight well inside. His arms loop when he's on the inside, he can't land effectively.

He is a much better distance boxer than most give him credit for.

[Ryn0]

Soir has to be the most pathetic fan of a fighter on earth. Most fight fans that I know want their fighters to fight the best and win, instead Soir condones Haye's ducking of the Klitschkos and wants him to fight them when they're old, can you get any more pathetic? Lol at the Klitschkos needing Haye, Haye is no better than Chagaev, Ibragimov or Peter.

I'd say he's alot better than Peter and he holds advantages over all of them since he's faster than both Klitschko's and IMO hits harder (maybe less so the Peter but Peter is slow and deliberate)

I don't condone his ducking, which it looks like he's doing (for whatever reason) but I'd say he poses a much bigger threat that those fighters.