Freddie Roach is an idiot, period

[Pullcounter]

Why is Roach an idiot ?

when you become as successful in boxing as roach has, then maybe I'll take this statement seriously.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

wow if that isn't the biggest cop out..seriously burner. I expected better.

Im eating breakfast. Jus being lazy.

[Tiozzo]

you people are sad, you didn't get my point obviously

Roach is an idiot because he is vocal about the state in which a fighter is prior to fighting Pacman, HE IS VERY accurate, but at the same time he eats his words when people measure the importance of the actual win WHILE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT what Roach said prior to the fight

IT IS NOT ONLY MIND GAMES, IT IS PART MIND GAMES, PART BEING TOO VOCAL ABOUT PACMAN'S OPPONENTS CHANCES

so Roach is not an idiot because he breaks down the fighters before the fight, he's an idiot because he breaks them down toO well, showing their flaws and all, and then when Pacquiao wins, he wishes he didn't say all he said, because it takes away some luster off the win

[2501]

Im eating breakfast. Jus being lazy.

Cookie Crisps?

[American Dream]

It's called mind games.

C'Mon..Roach isn't smart enough to play mind games..he wears his heart on his sleeve( his words!)..he truly believes what he's saying..

wait wait wait, why is it that when Floyd discredits his opponents, which he does all of the time ESPECIALLY against Mosley, its called "mind games", but when roach does it, its discrediting?

Explain the difference because I know you're going to say there is one. There's ALWAYS a "difference" when it comes to Floyd.

okay..Floyd points out the flaws on his opponents..
Roach simply labels them shot fighters.
Eg: Hatton fight or Dlh fight...listen to how Floyd picks them apart in how they are flawed and then listen to how Roach simply says they are shot,past it, damaged goods..big difference...
I do think however Floyd may have said Gatti was in too many wars..its been so long I forget..but we know Floyd needed that fight for the belt as a step..but when Roach picks these fighters based on what he says..it makes it worse

[Tiozzo]

when you become as successful in boxing as roach has, then maybe I'll take this statement seriously.

nonsense

he's a great trainer, I don't question that

[Pullcounter]

you people are sad, you didn't get my point obviously

Roach is an idiot because he is vocal about the state in which a fighter is prior to fighting Pacman, HE IS VERY accurate, but at the same time he eats his words when people measure the importance of the actual win WHILE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT what Roach said prior to the fight

IT IS NOT ONLY MIND GAMES, IT IS PART MIND GAMES, PART BEING TOO VOCAL ABOUT PACMAN'S OPPONENTS CHANCES

so Roach is not an idiot because he breaks down the fighters before the fight, he's an idiot because he breaks them down toO well, showing their flaws and all, and then when Pacquiao wins, he wishes he didn't say all he said, because it takes away some luster off the win

when you get your own boxing gym and start training world champions then maybe I might consider that what you said might be right.

[2501]

C'Mon..Roach isn't smart enough to play mind games..he wears his heart on his sleeve( his words!)..he truly believes what he's saying..


okay..Floyd points out the flaws on his opponents..
Roach simply labels them shot fighters.
Eg: Hatton fight or Dlh fight...listen to how Floyd picks them apart in how they are flawed and then listen to how Roach simply says they are shot,past it, damaged goods..big difference...
I do think however Floyd may have said Gatti was in too many wars..its been so long I forget..but we know Floyd needed that fight for the belt as a step..but when Roach picks these fighters based on what he says..it makes it worse

lol, always a "difference".

Anyway, only biased bitches try to point **** like this out. obviously doesn't matter to objective pundits seeing Pac won FOTD.

[Tiozzo]

wait wait wait, why is it that when Floyd discredits his opponents, which he does all of the time ESPECIALLY against Mosley, its called "mind games", but when roach does it, its discrediting?

Explain the difference because I know you're going to say there is one. There's ALWAYS a "difference" when it comes to Floyd.

I'll tell what the difference is : Floyd is a fighter, Roach is only a trainer. Roach has no business playing mind games, all he says, he truly believes.

[Tiozzo]

Coach Preddy>>> You.

thanks for your great contribution to the discussion, it's always great to have clever people like you around