Mayweather vs Pac...inside fighting-what happens?

[Monte Fisto]

I can't believe it you (and others) REALLY don't know what inside fighting is. Go watch the link to Rosario-Chavez I just posted...

EDIT: to answer your question. NO, that's not inside fighting.

Are you f**kin' bllind ?

I get it, in order for it to be "inside fighting" PAC has to literally be buttin' heads with the opponent for it to be an inside fight, come the f**k on.



But fast forward to 2 mins. of this vid against a great inside fighter, you tell me..

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[wmute]

I am outta here, back to the planet where posters have an idea of what they are talking about (aka Boxing History Forum)

[Tamis!]

Is this not inside fighting ? Just exactly how close would you like 'em to be for you to consider it inside fighting, would you like it to be a lil closer for your taste, like c*ck on c*ck ? Is that the distance you're looking for, lmao

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LOL no it's not inside fighting mate!

I give up too...

[wmute]

Are you f**kin' bllind ?

I get it, in order for it to be "inside fighting" PAC has to literally be buttin' heads with the opponent for it to be an inside fight, come the f**k on.



But fast forward to 2 mins. of this vid against a great inside fighter, you tell me..

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That is NOT inside fighting. Simple as that. At the 2 minutes mark, Pac has Barrera on the ropes, and takes a step back to start throwing, which is exactly my point. And the point of everyone who knows what inside fighting is.

As for the heads... yes, clashes of heads often occur on the inside, so do elbows, hitting on the hips, holding, pushing to turn, shoving, wrestling, yanking arms, thumbs, rubbing laces, and all those niceties...

Get a clue what you are talking about, then come back with your big caps, ok?

[Monte Fisto]

Pac's inside fighting capabilities are as close as possible to a question mark. Mayweather is on the contrary the best inside fighter available in this sad day and age, where most world champions, do not know how to effectively fight on the inside.

Dominating an inside fighters at his own game, means beating him on the inside, right?

Pac did not beat anyone by fighting on the inside, because that's not what he does. And reasonably so, considering his footwork and angles would be wasted at close quarters/

LMAO, dude, footwork and angles doesn't only have to be in long range.

WTF do you think "right hook, roll under" is about.

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[Monte Fisto]

That is NOT inside fighting. Simple as that. At the 2 minutes mark, Pac has Barrera on the ropes, and takes a step back to start throwing, which is exactly my point. And the point of everyone who knows what inside fighting is.

As for the heads... yes, clashes of heads often occur on the inside, so do elbows, hitting on the hips, holding, pushing to turn, shoving, wrestling, yanking arms, thumbs, rubbing laces, and all those niceties...

Get a clue what you are talking about, then come back with your big caps, ok?

You're such an *d*ot. it's called creating space, so as to not smother his own punches.

Whether you're in long range or close range, the name of the game is, "you can't be too far off and end up missing the target, and you can't be too close where you smother your own punches"

[Pacdbest]

Ok Here's your analysis of Pac-Hatton:

I am someone who thinks before typing.

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It is improved a lot, but it is not very relevant for the Hatton fight IMO. What matters is Pac's inside game. With Hatton's fast feet it is not a matter of IF the fight will get dirty and up close, it's a matter of HOW MUCH of it is going to be dirty and up close.

Mayweather is the best fighter I remember at keeping the fight where he wants (not the best, before people jump up, but the best at this) and he *had to* fight Hatton at close quarters too. A lot. He won the fight because his game (defense included) was excellent on the inside too. He boxed him, tired the hell out of him on the inside with some vicious bodyshots punctuating everything with an occasional hard right lead or left hook, and only then started throwing combos.

I have never seen pac fight on the inside, I am sure Freddie will work on that, but I am not sure how much can be done on someone who never fought much on the inside. Pac is a fast learner though. Pac will also have problems because we have seen Hatton manhandle everyone at 140 while clinching.

This fight will be interesting, Pac cannot fight "negative" like Mayweather, so we will see Hatton throwing many punches.

EDIT: obviously Pac causes Hatton a huge number of problems too, but this thread is about the other way round so I focused on that for now

and here's mine:

02-15-2008, 08:25 PM #13
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Re: Pacquiao vs Hatton 140 who wins?
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Hatton by KO... 140 is too much for Manny no matter how good he is... how good he is will be a tough question after March 15th as JMM will outbox him this time (as well).
Hatton was the best at 140 right???? What Happenned when he tried one weight class up against Collazo??? Got schooled... almost Koed by a B fighter & He don't ask for a rematch.

Pac was considered a beast at 122. He moved up against the best 126 lbs fighter & HOF MAB in his 1st try at 126. He Dominates. JMM Chickened out on the rematch so he takes the best 130 pounder available in HOFamer Morales. He lost but take the rematch right away & Proven he can Dominate.

There's a very few fighters who can move up in weight & still dominate. One of them is Pacquiao. In the past there's SRR & Armstrong. Today we have Pacquiao. Just enjoy him writing history before your eyes.

Who's better???

[Pacdbest]

You're such an *d*ot. it's called creating space, so as to not smother his own punches.

Whether you're in long range or close range, the name of the game is, "you can't be too far off and end up missing the target, and you can't be too close where you smother your own punches"

Is the wmute moron still here??

[The Noose]

Floyds uppercuts are better inside shots than anything pac has that close. IMO.

[gqjohnb]

Floyd beats manny when on the inside the only thing that makes that a dangerous strategy is floyd getting caught while trying to get on the inside... that being said floyd is really good at using the jab and the straight right to close the distance on guys.