Serious Question: Why did it take four years for JMM-PAC 2 to happen?

[The Badguy]

i'm ignorant to the back-story on this one can someone fill me in? a close fight like JMM-PAC 1 should warrented a rematch right away.

Pac didn't want none of that **** again...

[jaestix1]

JMM turned down a 700k paycheck for an immidiate rematch

for a fight with the Great Chris John in Indonesia for ......get this..............................30K.

wow....really?

[VERDUGO]

wow....really?

believe it.
And he ended up losing.

[Roger Yomama]

give castillo his credit for beating floyd

I will when Pac fans give JMM credit for handing their boy 2 ass whippings.

[jaestix1]

believe it.
And he ended up losing.

i know that he lost to chris john but i didn't know the back story to it.

[zeidrich]

i know that he lost to chris john but i didn't know the back story to it.

now u know

[100%BoXeOAzTeKa]

i'm ignorant to the back-story on this one can someone fill me in? a close fight like JMM-PAC 1 should warrented a rematch right away.

It should have been that way. Pacquiao's people offered 700k for it, but Berinstain (Marquez' trainer/manager) wanted more than 1 million for it. Pacquiao's people turned it down and he ended up fighting John in Indonesia for about 30k. He was robbed and lost his WBA fether weight title. Some people blame Berinstain for not capitalizing on Marquez' prime years in boxing. He's one of the best trainers out there but he has no business being a manager.

[victorythagr8]

Pac didn't want none of that **** again...

Pac is the one who wanted an immediate rematch and marquez turn down the fight to fight chris john for a bag of peanuts. Marquez didn't want to fight pacquaio again until pacquaio became the biggest name below 140. **** we would have pacquaio vs marquez 3 if Oscar never ducked margarito and call out a super featherweight who only had one fight above 130 and wanted to fight at 147. **** oscar screwed marquez again 2 years later by asking 50/50 for a pacquaio fight since they tried to set up and floyd vs pacquaio

[SoZe]

Pacquiao and Marquez were offered a 50/50 split by HBO for the immediate rematch in Vegas. I can't remember if they were each offered 500,000 or 700,000, Pacquiao's side agreed and Nacho said Marquez deserved at least a million, and walked away to fight John in Indonesia for 30,000. Neither Pacquiao or Marquez were scared of each other, but Nacho made a horrific business decision that hurt his fighter and himself. It was beyond dumb to do that, and even if they HAD beaten John, how would that fight have given then upward mobility in Marquez's career?

Marquez lost the fight and it took him years to get himself back on track. In the meantime, Pacquiao was taking major fights and becoming a bigger star. 4 years later Nacho and Marquez accepted an offer for much less than 50% for the rematch.

But leave it to people who don't know what they're talking about but won't let a simple detail like that from keeping them from talking saying bull**** like "Pac didn't want any." What happened is common knowledge and has been mentioned on HBO Countdown shows featuring Marquez. They discussed it in detail in either the Marquez vs Barerra or Marquez vs Pacquiao II countdown shows.

[johncods]

Marquez wanted to visit indonesia.