Serious Question: Why did it take four years for JMM-PAC 2 to happen?

[V.WEBB]

How are you gonna be a coach if you can't read and interpret?

I can READ. I've heard Manny make those SAME excuses you posted. Heck, I even heard the excuse that he didn't wear the right socks or something...SMH. Give EM his due for the first fight. It happens.

[DARKSEID]

I can READ. I've heard Manny make those SAME excuses you posted. Heck, I even heard the excuse that he didn't wear the right socks or something...SMH. Give EM his due for the first fight. It happens.

I'm still waiting for you to explain the part where I failed to give somebody credit. All I did was explain Manny's stance to the guy who was asking. I never explained mine.

That's where reading and interpretation comes in.

[dans]

Why do people keep saying this? Why isn't Erik Morales given ANY credit for beating Manny the first time? All we hear is excuses about this or that. Give EM his credit for beating Manny.

It's ridiculous. People try and discredit Erik's win against Manny for any reason. Yet conveniently forget that in fights 2 and 3, Erik fought at 130, which he clearly was killing himself to make at that point. Not only that, but prior to Pac beating Morales, Erik had dropped a wide UD to the very unspectacular Zahir Raheem.

Hey Pac fans, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If Morales doesn't get much credit for beating Pac, then Pac gets ZERO credit for beating Erik.

[V.WEBB]

I'm still waiting for you to explain the part where I failed to give somebody credit. All I did was explain Manny's stance to the guy who was asking. I never explained mine.

That's where reading and interpretation comes in.

Explain yours then Rbgnwo. And I was making that comment MAINLY because many other Manny fans use those same excuses whenever the first Morales fight is brought up. So if that is not YOUR stance, cool, my bad.

[V.WEBB]

It's ridiculous. People try and discredit Erik's win against Manny for any reason. Yet conveniently forget that in fights 2 and 3, Erik fought at 130, which he clearly was killing himself to make at that point. Not only that, but prior to Pac beating Morales, Erik had dropped a wide UD to the very unspectacular Zahir Raheem.

Hey Pac fans, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If Morales doesn't get much credit for beating Pac, then Pac gets ZERO credit for beating Erik.

Right man. I agree with you. IMO, there was NO need for the third fight, at all.

[maguirre]

The Morales/Pac 1 was a see-saw battle. Morales was clearly superior in that fight. He's the kind of fighter that could take a combination of punches, then counter punch with his own.

[dans]

Right man. I agree with you. IMO, there was NO need for the third fight, at all.

Morales had no business trying to fight at 130 at that point. He would balloon between fights Hatton style and he killed himself to make that weight.

[DARKSEID]

Explain yours then Rbgnwo. And I was making that comment MAINLY because many other Manny fans use those same excuses whenever the first Morales fight is brought up. So if that is not YOUR stance, cool, my bad.

I don't have a stance- Erik beat Manny the first time and Manny beat Erik the next two times. Period.

Boxing is a man's sport- there's no crying, and there's no making excuses. The only Issue I have is bad judging/scoring.

[V.WEBB]

I don't have a stance- Erik beat Manny the first time and Manny beat Erik the next two times.

Boxing is a man's sport- there's no crying, and there's no making excuses. The only Issue I have is bad judging/scoring.

Wish more boxing fans thought like you.

[VERDUGO]

JMM turned down a 700k paycheck for an immidiate rematch

for a fight with the Great Chris John in Indonesia for ......get this..............................30K.