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  • poeticlsykuac
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    #41
    This is ridiculous, Bradley said we both need to fight a couple more fights before fighting each other to make a even bigger fight. So by Feb we could see these boys going at it. Bradley is obviously not scared of Alexander, he has chosen to fought harder fighters than you realize. Alexander got his belt from Urango, which Bradley gave up(meaning Alexander never beat the true champ), he got his other belt from someone who never won the belt. Peterson, Holt, Campbell, Witter(when he was the lineal champ), and scheduled to fight Maidana. Seriously this is ridiculous if there is anyone that hasn't ducked a fighter it is Bradley, he has chosen the hardest fights outside of Cherry.

    Alexander is a paper champion man, he won a vacant belt and got a belt against someone who won a vacant title. Alexander has three names on his resume, Corely(anyone say old), Urango, and Witter. Seriously man, get off this guys jock. Bradley calls the shots, Bradley is the lineal champ, nothing else need be said.

    Campbell was considered the harder fight when he chose to fight him. Campbell was far better known and would help him a lot more with the legacy he is trying to create. Sorry but Bradley is going to punk Alexander and then everyone is going to be upset he fought Alexander instead of Ortiz or whoever. Bradley deserves to get paid, plain and simple, why shouldn't he get paid? Higher risk, Higher reward? Come on with this BS.

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    • Lorily
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      #42
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      if timmeh makes it big and devon makes it big, then we gonna run into the same **** as pac/floyd, 2 out of control egos that make the fight impossible to make. its gonna be the same bull**** as the hops/rjj rematch. a fight that everyone wanted 10 years ago.

      its gonna be the same bull**** as floyd/mosley... floyd got to mosley too late in his career when they should've met when both were in their primes.

      when timmeh finally decides to fight alexander, nobody will want to see it.

      timmeh is better off just fighting alexander. if the first fight is awesome, for sure HBO will want a rematch and possibly a rubbermatch.

      Rivalries are what boxing thrives on, but if you don't get trilogies from fighting tune ups.
      I agree with you. I think we are going to start seeing this happen more and more, unfortunately. I think greed is going to keep us from getting to see a lot of the big fights happen when they should, if at all. It's sad, really.
      Last edited by Lorily; 05-14-2010, 02:32 PM.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #43
        Originally posted by Lorily
        IMO Bradley wouldn't make any more money fighting Abregu, Judah and (possibly) Maidana at any time in the future, whereas the potential of Bradley/Alexander making more money later than now tends to be more certain. It doesn't make it great for us, but certainly it makes sense to them.


        Perhaps if I could just offer you another perspective, I really don't see it as being dishonest (I choose to believe he is respectable) I see it rather as him trying to point out the real issue why the fight with Devon isn't happening yet... BECAUSE so many have been saying he is ducking him. I mean, the majority of people in this post state that "150k is bull**** for that fight" and now they understand why it isn't happening yet. Whereas before, many fans just called it a duck... and we all know, as we are being reminded time and time again, that this is a business first for the fighters/promoters. As much as we just want to see the right fights happen, it's sad that money is the determining factor of what we get these days.
        You're missing the point. The point is that he would not be offered anything like 150k if he fought Alexander now. He'd probably be offered over a million and would certainly be offered far more than 150k. So for him to bring up what he was offered by Showtime to fight Alexander when Alexander held no titles and had fought no contenders, and when both fighters were still with Showtime, as a reason for not fighting him now, when Alexander holds two titles and has had two great wins over top contenders, and when both fighters are with HBO, who pay a lot more than Showtime, is extremely dishonest. And anyone who thinks that is a valid reason for not fighting him now has simply been taken in by his dishonest sleight of hand, because Bradley would be offered very good money indeed if he fought Alexander now.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #44
          Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
          Sorry but Bradley is going to punk Alexander
          You can't punk someone if you won't fight them.

          And they're both paper titlists. The alphabet belts are all paper titles. When they fight each other, it'll be the division's #1 vs. #2 fighting for the lineal title. Until then, the lineal title is vacant. It was last held by Pacquiao, who won it from Hatton, who won it from Tszyu. The Ring still has Pac listed as the champion but he's effectively vacated it, due to moving to Welterweight. (The Ring has agreed with Pac that if his next fight isn't a defence of the title, they will take that as him having vacated it voluntarily).
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-14-2010, 03:54 PM.

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          • ma51f
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            #45
            cant blame him really because at the end of the day only one thing matters and thats money

            there is no such as duckers, just match making to make the most possible amount of money.

            Bradley wants the big money fights, Khan/pacman/mayweather

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            • Dave Rado
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              #46
              Originally posted by ma51f
              cant blame him really because at the end of the day only one thing matters and thats money
              Are you a Mayweather fan by any chance? That's the way Mayweather fans think. If boxing was really run on the basis that short term money was the only thing that mattered, it would no longer be a sport. No other sport is run that way. In all other sports the best have to compete against the best. And in the long run, boxing will die as a sport unless boxers respect the fact that it is a sport. And if it dies as a sport, it won't make money.

              In any case, Bradley would make very good money indeed if he fought Alexander now; and as I keep pointing out, his bringing up what he was offered to fight him before Alexander had fought any contenders, and when they were with Showtime, and pretending that has any relevance to what he'd be paid to fight him now, when it clearly isn't relevant, is extremely dishonest of him.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-14-2010, 04:03 PM.

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              • ma51f
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                Are you a Mayweather fan by any chance? That's the way Mayweather fans think. If boxing was really run on the basis that short term money was the only thing that mattered, it would no longer be a sport. No other sport is run that way. In all other sports the best have to compete against the best. And in the long run, boxing will die as a sport unless boxers respect the fact that it is a sport. And if it dies as a sport, it won't make money.
                unfortunatly what i said was 100% correct.

                boxing is not about fighting the best anymore. its about match-making and keep the "0" for as long as possible

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                • And Still
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
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                  These guys are always asking why we discuss money. Well, what is stopping this Bradley-Alexander fight from happening?

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ma51f
                    unfortunatly what i said was 100% correct.
                    It's partly correct, but it's far from being 100% correct. The day it becomes 100% correct, boxing will die as a sport. And no one who loves the sport should be defending fighters who don't want to test themselves against the best possible opponents.

                    The irony of this discussion is that Bradley made his name by consistently fighting the best possible opposition, rather than doing what you claim all fighters do, which proves the point that you're wrong about that. This is the first time he's gone into the "money is the only thing that matters" camp.

                    In any case, Bradley would make very good money indeed if he fought Alexander now; and as I keep pointing out, his bringing up what he was offered to fight him before Alexander had fought any contenders, and when they were with Showtime, and pretending that has any relevance to what he'd be paid to fight him now, when it clearly isn't relevant, is extremely dishonest of him.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-14-2010, 04:08 PM.

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                    • whiteethblkass
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                      #50
                      poor bradley can even make a fight..as long as his promoter is fat ass gary shaw he cant make a fight cuz he protected him to fight an elite fighter..Alexander want the fight him tho fat ass gary shaw scared to mention alexander's name right beside him...lmao..

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