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  • Dave Rado
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    #71
    Originally posted by LeadUppercut
    Shoulda, woulda, coulda..... but did they ?

    Link plz.

    And, how much is " more " ?
    HBO haven't been asked to make an offer. Bradley hasn't even approached them about fighting Alexander, and that's what sucks. If he had, he wouldn't be talking about what Showtime offered him over a year ago, he'd be talking about what HBO is offering him now.

    HBO don't pay less than half a million for big unification fights like these, and given that Khan is getting over $1 million for fighting Malignaggi, I'd be astonished if they wouldn't pay Bradley close to that for a big three-title unification fight like this. But the point is that Bradley hasn't even asked them.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-14-2010, 07:50 PM.

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      #72
      150K? Damn that was crap so can't blame him. Malignaggi made more than that against Diaz. How much money would there be on the table for a Bradley-Alexander fight now?

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      • Dave Rado
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        #73
        Originally posted by Calilloyd
        I think boxing has provided that for the most part.
        For the most part, maybe, but I was arguing with people who claimed that it doesn't and that it needn't, and that the only thing that matters is short term money, and the competition aspect can go hang. And the fact that it doesn't do it more than it does is a big part of why it's lost a lot of its popularity.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #74
          Originally posted by Calilloyd
          I think boxing has provided that for the most part. These fights take time and it's unrealistic to expect them to happen immediately with no negotiations. It's not like football or basketball where everything is pre scheduled. Aagin, it's an individual sport that cannot be compred to basketball or football. And it goes without saying that boxing is more of a high risk sport than Tennis.
          that kinda attitude gets real boxing fans fights like rjj/hopkins II.

          as a boxing fan, you should want the biggest fights to happen. you shouldn't make excuses why big fights can't happen. my 2 cents.
          Last edited by Pullcounter; 05-14-2010, 07:48 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            HBO haven't been asked to make an offer. Bradley hasn't even approached them about fighting Alexander, and that's what sucks. If he had, he wouldn't be talking about what Showtime offered him over a year ago, he'd be talking about what HBO is offering him now.

            HBO don't pay less than half a million for big unification fights like these, and given that Khan is getting over $1 million for fighting Malignaggi, I'd be astonished if they wouldn't pay Bradley close to that for a big three-title unification fight like this,. But the point is that Bradley hasn't even asked them.
            This. Right on. You at least see what HBO offers for the fight before you flat out turn the other guy down or else it's a duck. Now granted, sometimes HBO isn't willing to pay the guys what they expect like in the case with that one instance regarding P-Will and Clottey and now Gamboa and Caballero. But given that it's known that these two guys are the best in the division automatically makes this a decent money fight for both compared to what they would get for fighting anybody else.

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #76
              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              If Bradley continues to duck Alexander, no way will he get a fight against Pac or Mayweather. Be real.
              If Bradley does not fight Alexander, and Alexander fights somebody else and loses, then I find it conceivable that if the timing was right..... Bradley could be in the running at some stage in the future. I also said that Alexander could find himself in that same position.

              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              And where is your evidence that HBO would pay him peanuts? That's not how HBO's operates.
              The main issue here, appears to be that we are discussing a hypothetical offer.

              I agree that HBO could offer more, and if it is a reasonable offer then Bradley should accept, and that this fight probably would be a great spectacle..... but coulda / woulda / shoulda's wont get this fight made either.

              You cannot defend the simplistic position that you have taken on this one..... " Bradleys ducking Alexander "..... when there is no concrete offer currently on the table, and the previous offer (albiet from shotime) was a joke. When there is a documented offer on the table, your point may be valid.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxing Ftw
                150K? Damn that was crap so can't blame him. Malignaggi made more than that against Diaz. How much money would there be on the table for a Bradley-Alexander fight now?
                Alexander hadn't beaten anyone back then, so it's not surprising that such a low offer was made at that time. Plus both fighters were with Showtime, who always pay far less than HBO pay. He was paid about the same to fight Campbell. But now that both fighters are with HBO and hold three titles between them, they'd obviously be paid far more to fight now. But Bradley hasn't even discussed the fight with HBO, which sucks. And his bringing up what he was offered by Showtime back then and pretending it has any relevance to what HBO would offer now is simply dishonest of him, because it has no relevance whatsoever.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  If Bradley does not fight Alexander, and Alexander fights somebody else and loses, then I find it conceivable that if the timing was right..... Bradley could be in the running at some stage in the future. I also said that Alexander could find himself in that same position.



                  The main issue here, appears to be that we are discussing a hypothetical offer.

                  I agree that HBO could offer more, and if it is a reasonable offer then Bradley should accept, and that this fight probably would be a great spectacle..... but coulda / woulda / shoulda's wont get this fight made either.

                  You cannot defend the simplistic position that you have taken on this one..... " Bradleys ducking Alexander "..... when there is no concrete offer currently on the table, and the previous offer (albiet from shotime) was a joke. When there is a documented offer on the table, your point may be valid.
                  In order for HBO to make an offer, all Bradley has to do is ask them to make an offer. Instead, all he does is come up with reasons for not fighting him, and trying to pretend that what Showtime offered when Alexander was a nobody has any relevance to the situation now, when clearly it doesn't. Because of that weasel-like behaviour, it's a clear duck, IMO.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    that kinda attitude gets real boxing fans fights like rjj/hopkins II.

                    as a boxing fan, you should want the biggest fights to happen. you shouldn't make excuses why big fights can't happen. my 2 cents.
                    Nice way of taking everything I said out of context. My 2 cents.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      that kinda attitude gets real boxing fans fights like rjj/hopkins II.

                      as a boxing fan, you should want the biggest fights to happen. you shouldn't make excuses why big fights can't happen. my 2 cents.
                      Exactly. The more those sort of fights don't happen, the more boxing will become a niche sport.

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