**2001 Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs 2005 Erik Morales @ 130**

[Khalid X]

What other times has Mayweather "done this ?" I'm talking specifically about the Tszyu situation. And yes you are flaming. This back and forth was going intelligently until you contributed with your typical childish comments.

nothing is intelligent about twisting the truth...that is all.

BTW I'll let you have you guys have your little fun...peace.

[Horus]

My take is I see alot of b.s. in this thread about Floyd calling out these fighters and by them not accepting they are somehow "scared" or were ducking him. Hamed, Morales, Barrera Tszyu etc never ducked Floyd. To say such things is very foolish and naive.

MIKE, care to explain how Hamed, Barrera, and Morales didnt find a way to get in the ring with Mayweather

Especially Morales..

[jrosales13]

And Mayweather improved for there on. Thing is Mayweather was so athletically gifted at SFW that he didn't need to get in the pocket, so he wasn't as developped in that department as he is now. Now he'll bend at the waist, go in with his shoulder to set up the right hook/ uppercut to the body. He's also realy sneaky at using his forearm/ elbow to line up the right hand. Not to mention he's bigger now. We're not gonna see Mayweather get pushed around like that anymore unless he faces a much bigger opponent. Also looking at the success Frankie Randall had, I honestly don't see Chavez giving Floyd all that much trouble. Mayweather beats Chavez at any weight IMO.

But, that is why I said pre Castillo. At 130 it would of been before Castillo no?

I don't think he fought at 130 again after Castillo did he or am I missing something?

And, I don't think the JCC that fought at 130 was the same JCC that fought Randall years and I mean years later.

[jrosales13]

Spadafora career is the most dissapointing in this era. He call mayweather out night and day because he claims Mayweather disrespected him, and he felt like Mayweather didnt show him any respect. BLAH BLAH .. but then the dude gets arrested for shooting of his pregnant girlfriend. And then a year later he drives his car into a parked police car. This dude I swear should not been mention as a guy Mayweather supposably ducked.

and he 2003 Mayweather was already in a contract to defend his title against sosa and Paul was already in a contract to fight dorin a month later...

But anyways,
I thought you was going to bring up Winky Wright,

Why couldn't he fight Winky?

[Emphasis]

Why couldn't he fight Winky?

Money issues. Floyd said Winky was asking for too much.

[Calilloyd]

And Mayweather improved for there on. Thing is Mayweather was so athletically gifted at SFW that he didn't need to get in the pocket, so he wasn't as developped in that department as he is now. Now he'll bend at the waist, go in with his shoulder to set up the right hook/ uppercut to the body. He's also realy sneaky at using his forearm/ elbow to line up the right hand. Not to mention he's bigger now. We're not gonna see Mayweather get pushed around like that anymore unless he faces a much bigger opponent. Also looking at the success Frankie Randall had, I honestly don't see Chavez giving Floyd all that much trouble. Mayweather beats Chavez at any weight IMO.

I agree. I watched. Chavez in his prime and know what type of fighters would beat him. And Mayweather is one of them. Chavez would have always had problems with Randell too.

[F l i c k e r]

MIKE, care to explain how Hamed, Barrera, and Morales didnt find a way to get in the ring with Mayweather

Especially Morales..

It'll be dumb excuses... your shoveling **** uphill, Horus.

Because everything the say can be used to say as reasons to why Floyd didn't fight Margarito, Cotto, or Paul when they called him out. Yet, if you use their logic against them, they will twist it around to fit their agenda. Double standards.

[Khalid X]

MIKE, care to explain how Hamed, Barrera, and Morales didnt find a way to get in the ring with Mayweather

Well first of all Barrera was in the golden era of the FW division. Never in the history of the sport had the division been as loaded as it was when Marco was there. I absolutely can't stand MAB as a fighter but to say that he stayed their as long as he did because of Floyd is a joke. During that time 6 potential Hall of famers had passed through, MAB fought almost all of them, on top of so many other elite fighters.

MAB has on a great run, was getting big fight after big fight, so why in the hell would he even think about Floyd? By the time that division cooled off, Floyd was at 140 anyways. Morales and Barrera only moved up to chase the elusive 4th title in 4 divisions, something no Mexican has ever done. It was never because they were "afraid of Floyd".

Now if people wanna believe that garbage to boost their ego (not saying you Bro) they knock yourself out. I'm just calling it like I see it dawg, and for anyone to say, believe or think that is foolish.

[Horus]

Why couldn't he fight Winky?

Because Winky Wright over priced himself.
Mayweather was going to moved up from 140 to fight this dude.

Remember after the Mosely fight, who Called Winky Wright Out?

No other than Floyd Mayweather himself....

and the only reason the fight didnt happen was because winky wanted a 50/50 split.


Looking back on that decision, Winky have to be kicking himself in the head everyday because Mayweather went on to became the face of boxing. and Winky is still looking for fights.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Why couldn't he fight Winky?

Winky over priced himself. Floyd was also at JWW and Winky had just popped Mosley.

Maybe the talks were serious, maybe they werent. I do know they are good friends though.