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  • #21
    Originally posted by T-WANG View Post
    I don't think Williams hits harder then Mayweather. Neither does he have the precision to hit martinez like mayweather can. Pavlik maybe the harder puncher but his punch output and accuracy is no where near as good as mayweathers. May will def.. get his shots in, well and placed, and get out of there. I wouldn't count him out like that.


    That's what people said when Manny moved up in weight to fight these bigger guys. They said these bigger guys took punches from stronger, and harder punching man, and that manny wouldnt hurt them

    well he did...

    im not comparing floyd to manny; all im saying is anything can happen....
    Floyd's success depends on making his opponents hesitant due to his power. Once they feel his power, they are afraid to initiate offense due to fear of stinging counter punching.

    Martinez engaged in a gun battle with Paul Williams. And yes, Paul Williams hits harder than Mayweather. Kelly Pavlik hits harder than Mayweather. The point is, Martinez did not hesitate to engage with them.

    Not only that, he's a southpaw with a great right hook. Stamina will not be an issue in this fight as Mayweather does not pressure like Williams or Pavlik does. This fight will be fought at a slower pace.

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    • #22
      also sergio dobules up on his left hand alot, that may cause floyd problems

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      • #23
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        Poll coming.
        Martinez has a very decent work rate, very good speed, and a great straight left. Floyd doesn't work too much and doesn't throw any combinations that would throw martinez off.

        martinez defense isn't the best, but that's when he has to slip 2-3 incoming punches.

        Floyd at most will give him 1 or 2 punch combinations to avoid and in situations like that his defense and movement will definitely shine more, because it's much easiar to slip 1 punch than 2.. his defense will shine if he were to fight floyd.

        Floyds always had a tougher night with southpaws, that's a given. And martinez would be the biggest and close to the fastest (zab is the fastest) that he has faced.

        he'd also do things very unorthodox, and show floyd a few new angles that he may or may not have seen before. When partinez punches, though, his angles resemble pacmans a lot. He covers every angle and it's really a fun thing to look at when he gets off.

        He moves in and out often, so the chances of him being countered by floyd become very slim because he's moving out as floyd is coming in to counter. FLoyd also likes to walk down southpaws, i havent ever seen him box with 1.

        I dont see him walking down teh bigger martinez, and floyds version of the high guard (which is what he uses against southies) IMO plays into martinez's hands a bit more..because floyd always "squares up" against southies.

        It's a good fight, and very winnable for martinez, who i think will win, given his style. he has a great straight left as well, which he doubles and even triples up on occasion. We've all seen Zab land his straight left, Chop Chop land his, etc. They didn't use it often though, martinez loves to throw it out here often.. and like i said, he triples and doubles it.

        In floyds favor is obviously the incredible countering ability. Let's keep it real though, martinez isn't exactly there to be countered and floyd doesn't have the size, range, or power to really make them count on martinez IMO.

        Martinez is always on his toes, and always circling left or right, never moving straight back or getting lazy on his feet after punching (ever notice floyds opponents seem to sit there for the counter, even after hit, they just shell up n clinch or act like wtf happened?)

        The perpetual movement, angles, speed, workrate, size, and southpaw stance IMO give martinez a great chance in this fight.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
          Yall sleeping on Floyds right hand big time. It comes out of nowhere and Martinez hands will be down anyway.
          Dammit Burner, Martinez's hands are down when he's out of range. He doesnt have them down when he's in the inside or in punching range. That little characteristic is irrelevant.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by 2501 View Post
            Floyd's success depends on making his opponents hesitant due to his power. Once they feel his power, they are afraid to initiate offense due to fear of stinging counter punching.

            Martinez engaged in a gun battle with Paul Williams. And yes, Paul Williams hits harder than Mayweather. Kelly Pavlik hits harder than Mayweather. The point is, Martinez did not hesitate to engage with them.

            Not only that, he's a southpaw with a great right hook. Stamina will not be an issue in this fight as Mayweather does not pressure like Williams or Pavlik does. This fight will be fought at a slower pace.
            That's because when you throw punches at Pavlik he throws his arms up like a half assed winky wright and turns into a punching bag.

            When you throw at Floyd, half the time it gets slipped and you get a right hand in your face.

            He may not be able to hurt Martinez... but that doesn't mean he wants to be punched in the face.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
              Yall sleeping on Floyds right hand big time. It comes out of nowhere and Martinez hands will be down anyway.
              Martinez only fights like that when he knows he's out of range.

              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              No he isn't.

              He's faster against Pavlik like Mosley was against Margarito.

              Sergio is quick... but his reflexes aren't touching Floyds.. and 5 pounds isn't going to make the difference.
              You overrate Floyds speed because he's always picking slower older shot fighters to compare him against.

              Mosley made his speed look average before he stopped punching. Martinez by k.o.

              Quote me.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by 2501 View Post
                Dammit Burner, Martinez's hands are down when he's out of range. He doesnt have them down when he's in the inside or in punching range. That little characteristic is irrelevant.
                Thats just it. He think he will be out of range and those hands will drop then that right hand Cobra strike will catch him. You are always in range vs. Floyd hes just that accurate and unpredictable.

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                • #28
                  Martinez's stamina issues were more due to Pavlik's/ Paul's size. Mayweather is gonna really have to work the body here. Sort of like he did against Judah.

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                  • #29
                    I see no reason why Martinez cant beat Mayweather. He has the tools to do it no doubt, interesting match-up.

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                    • #30
                      hey wait so it'll be a fight full of straight right and one wit a straight left...it'll be like fight night rd 4 online!!

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