Comments Thread For: Larry Merchant on Floyd Mayweather, History and Legacy

[amayseng]

Now this may get laughed at....but here goes....Baldomir is actually highly under rated on this forum. He gave Floyd problems especially early......if you actually watch the fight you will understand why he fought the way he did....Baldomir is one of the most awkward inside fighters of the last 20 years.....there is a reason floyd hired him repeatedly for sparring after he beat him......Baldomir was a difficult opponent for any welter......he's not elite...but was a very good 47 pounder........and he gets zero appreceiation here as a very solid 47 pounder simply because he lost to PBF which i find sad.......the man had a 9 year unbeaten run at 47 and beat Gatti and Judah at that weight......he deserves some respect.

he beat judah

but gatti was shot, years and years shot, so please you cant add that

bald was a ****in grinder, he took a beating to give one and he never stopped coming. but he was far from skilled, it was a cake walk for floyd

[Sugar Q]

Listen the guy is skilled out the ass I'm not taking anything away from the skill set.I said it before what make's May great is I believe he would have been great in any era.But in his own era he did not fight the fights that would have got him there.Marga's Cotto and(Younger) Shane was right there after he beat Hatton and so was his legacy.He messed him self up for saying he had nothing left to prove and retiring.Those were to be his defining fights and he did not fight umm.Now this is going to hurt me to say being that Mosley is my favorite fighter but he would most likely have won all three of those fights.But he would have fought umm in the time frame in which he should have heighten his legacy and adding prime fighters except for Shane to his resume.

But your blaming Floyd for those fights not happening and that's not right. What about Arum? What about Cotto? What about Shane? Floyd can only be responsible for Floyd. You can't take away from his great accomplishments because of guys that didn't wanna play they position. I don't see wins over Cotto and Margacheato making Floyd no better than he is now. I say he has faced all the people he should have. He called out Zu but Zu played deaf.
How could anybody say Floyd didn't do all he could do if he beats Martinez?

[Rome-By-Ko]

No, I'm comparing the facts that both Mayweather and Pacquiao are making requests that are outside the standard commission rules which makes the excuse that Pacquiao is justified in refusing Mayweather's request because he's "changing the rules" in a word, garbage. I would also note the fact that Pacquiao stipulated that Cotto come in at a catch weight for his own title, which is obviouisly outside of the standard commission rules. Nevermind the excuses, can you say hypocrite?

You're not Pacquiao, but you're a Pacquiao apologist. You're apologizing and excusing Pacquiao ducking the fight based on BS. This is something that you need to be honest with yourself about.

I feel like we going in circles.Cotto excepted it just like Mosley excepted OST and alot of people are crying Blooddrained.I'm not apologizing for Pac I just understand where he is coming from just cause you can't don't make you right or me wrong.It's a matter of OPINION I said before I feel that both have VALID points.Oh and Pac did agree to the test just not the cut off times.So they both agreed to each others demands.

[amayseng]

IMO They started letting Floyd really have it when he said he was better then some of the greatest fighters of all time.Some may think he just said this in a recent 24/7 but he had been said this even before the Hatton fight with nothing to back it up with.

i have no problem( as stated for months) with floyd thinking he is the best ever, he should be confident..

however, um.....no. no way. and as rome has been saying floyd took himself away from fighting the elite fighter and prime fighters to put his stamp on that,
so he cant argue that because he didnt fight all the best he could have to make that claim

like i said, floyd is frowned upon because he crosses the line with a mans family no matter what sport or job that **** is wrong.

add into the fact he acted like a 16 year old punk big mouth and it just rubbed people the wrong way

it was ****ing annoying

and embarrassing

here is the best fighter in the sport, the ambassador of the sport, the man carrying the torch of this great sport, and he is running his mouth like a punk thug



if you guys cant understand that then you werent raised right

[amayseng]

But your blaming Floyd for those fights not happening and that's not right. What about Arum? What about Cotto? What about Shane? Floyd can only be responsible for Floyd. You can't take away from his great accomplishments because of guys that didn't wanna play they position. I don't see wins over Cotto and Margacheato making Floyd no better than he is now. I say he has faced all the people he should have. He called out Zu but Zu played deaf.
How could anybody say Floyd didn't do all he could do if he beats Martinez?

cotto was a freakin threat, he was solid before margacheato ruined him to death

if floyd took him on when he was hot then he would have added respect

truth

[Sugar Q]

cotto was a freakin threat, he was solid before margacheato ruined him to death

if floyd took him on when he was hot then he would have added respect

truth

It would've been cool to see that fight @140 also.

[Rome-By-Ko]

But your blaming Floyd for those fights not happening and that's not right. What about Arum? What about Cotto? What about Shane? Floyd can only be responsible for Floyd. You can't take away from his great accomplishments because of guys that didn't wanna play they position. I don't see wins over Cotto and Margacheato making Floyd no better than he is now. I say he has faced all the people he should have. He called out Zu but Zu played deaf.
How could anybody say Floyd didn't do all he could do if he beats Martinez?

I'm gonna make this short and Sugary(like that lol)Great fighters know how to make the great fights happen when they suppose to happen.Floyd was num 1 at that time bro.He could have made anyone of those fights happen you know this and the boxing world knows this.

[amayseng]

Hey keep it real I don't give two ****'s what you say about Mosley Hoya Hatton or anybody else.What ****'s Mayweather up is the lack of respect he shows to the Sport of Boxing and too those who came before him.Do you think in anyway that May goes threw the same racism that Ali went threw or even worse Jack Johnson?These man pave the way my brother and for Mayweather to say aloud with his ranting is a disrespectful act and as a black man you should feel a lil ashame that he is taking like that on T.V.

agreed, lots of racism back then, awful, italians delt with it as well

[Tweezy316]

im not the one making 40 million on 24/7 representing the sport we both love

that is floyd, so he can deal with the judgement and negativity.

has nothing to do with hipocracy, has to do with floyd putting himself out there knowing he will be condemned for it

im not calling names to call names, floyds family has a history of drugs, domestic violence and prison

it is what it is.

if he was respectful you think those things would come up?

floyd had a rough childhood and all he's trying to do is secure his children's future if that means being an ******* to sell ppv's then so be it. there's a lot of rich people who do a lot worse thing to get to the top. what floyd is doing is not hurting anyone. people can say whatever they want about floyd. but at the end of the day floyd and his family will be taken care of. do you think anything else really matters? and as far as boxing legacy he will get his credit when he's long gone from the sport. people can only hate for so long.

[Rome-By-Ko]

But your blaming Floyd for those fights not happening and that's not right. What about Arum? What about Cotto? What about Shane? Floyd can only be responsible for Floyd. You can't take away from his great accomplishments because of guys that didn't wanna play they position. I don't see wins over Cotto and Margacheato making Floyd no better than he is now. I say he has faced all the people he should have. He called out Zu but Zu played deaf.
How could anybody say Floyd didn't do all he could do if he beats Martinez?

Dude it would have made a hella of a difference.Cotto Prime and was a beast that was undefeated.Marga's a stone chin Mexican who never stop coming forward and was at the peak of his career.Mosley was a name and was three yr's younger then he is now.Sugar if you were being honest and not stuck in Floyd world you would know this would have been hugh to his Career.