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  • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
    understandable, but we are saying as passionate boxing fans why we dislike his attitude and personality.

    now look at the casual fan, they dont want anything to do with it.

    then there are the outside fans looking in and decide to go to mma instead of boxing.

    i feel it hurts the sport overall

    floyd has not changed his style in his whole life, he has always been a boxer,

    so it is obvious we are buying his fights to watch him box, not talk trash and to expect him to show up and fight like mike tyson

    this is evidence enough that he can sell tickets by being the best and beating the best.

    no casual fan bought his last fight because they expected him to show up like mike tyson or a young george foreman


    my point is that he could carry the sport well, and make his money by representing the sport and bringing the popularity of it back to the casual fan while be respectful to those that paved the way for him

    sure he can be ****y and arrogant, but his immature trash talking is overdone

    like i stated, his appearance on jim rome was embarrassing
    I give you props on that and it was embarrassing for the sport indeed. It's just every causal fan I talk to only talks about wanting someone to shut him up. Sometimes I want Floyd to just shut up! We live in America and most people choose trash over class...

    On the rascism note...we are blessed not to see it as much. That includes all races..

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    • Originally posted by Mr.Smith View Post
      Didn't ALI do the same thing? What do you think Joe Louis and SRR thought about that? Floyd is doing everything ALI did and getting hated on the same way ALI did.
      im sorry dude, floyd is no ali...
      just cuz he states that he is the greatest, doesnt mean he went through what ali did... ali was a social figure, civil rights, his stance against war, nation of islam.... ali spoke for a reason. plus, ali was a smooth dude. the man had style and charisma. his quotes were classic....
      what does floyd got???
      "all roads leads to mayweather"???
      "40 tried, 40 failed"???
      "theres no blueprint to floyd"????
      WEAK!!!!!!!! floyd has no style and finesse. brother ****m stole the show on 24/7. ****m was dropping knowledge on everyone... floyd kept saying the same tired rehearsed rubbish. roger & floyd sr. outwit floyd jr. anyday... HAHA.

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      • Originally posted by Tony Z View Post
        Here's the thing if you were #1 p4p and you decided you didn't feel like fighting for a while so someone else came along, destroyed the people you had tough fights with, blew away another top contender in the same weight class and is declared the new #1 p4p fighter in the world if you have a problem with that because you feel you are still top dog then be a man and fight him. A champion doesn't start rumors with no basis to try to discredit someone else's career and use that as a way out of a fight...THE FIGHT, no he goes out to show the world why he was #1 in the first place. You can't take anything away from him for what he did to Mosley but that was marketing. He knew that was the only other fight that the boxing public would let him take to keep any credibility after he found a way out of the Pacquiao fight and it was the easier of the two(of course that plan almost backfired in the 2nd before Mosley decided that not throwing punches was the best way to win the fight). Either way I agree with everyone I only want to see the best fight the best and it's so rare that the number 1 and 2 p4p are in the same weight range that if it doesn't happen it's bull**** there is no excuse.
        damn good post.

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        • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
          that was a different time with different implications



          do you not concur?
          What was so different? I'm talking about boxing ALI not outside the ring ALI. He said some pretty awful things about Frazier that DID nothing for race relations between black and white or even between blacks themselves light and dark. Im not challenging what you are saying I'd just like and example of what you see as different?

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          • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
            im sorry dude, floyd is no ali...
            just cuz he states that he is the greatest, doesnt mean he went through what ali did... ali was a social figure, civil rights, his stance against war, nation of islam.... ali spoke for a reason. plus, ali was a smooth dude. the man had style and charisma. his quotes were classic....
            what does floyd got???
            "all roads leads to mayweather"???
            "40 tried, 40 failed"???
            "theres no blueprint to floyd"????
            WEAK!!!!!!!! floyd has no style and finesse. brother ****m stole the show on 24/7. ****m was dropping knowledge on everyone... floyd kept saying the same tired rehearsed rubbish. roger & floyd sr. outwit floyd jr. anyday... HAHA.

            Where did I say Floyd is better or anything like ALI? I said he is trying to do what ALI did to sell fights and getting told the same things that ALI did. I believe I've followed ALI long enough to know who he was. He saw the pattern and is trying to follow it. I for one never said or even think they are on the same level as far as selling fights. I've even commented that he is NO ALI when it comes to that and some guys actually think he is but, that was their opinion.

            Yes, Brother Naazim stole the show on 24/7 but how many people bought tickets to see Brother Naazim May 1st?

            Dude is my favorite personality in boxing right now..Naazim not Floyd just so we are clear.
            Last edited by Mr.Smith; 05-12-2010, 11:59 PM. Reason: forgot something

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            • Damn this thread is on fire

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              • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                im sorry dude, floyd is no ali...
                Just cuz he states that he is the greatest, doesnt mean he went through what ali did... Ali was a social figure, civil rights, his stance against war, nation of islam.... Ali spoke for a reason. Plus, ali was a smooth dude. The man had style and charisma. His quotes were classic....
                What does floyd got???
                "all roads leads to mayweather"???
                "40 tried, 40 failed"???
                "theres no blueprint to floyd"????
                Weak!!!!!!!! Floyd has no style and finesse. Brother ****m stole the show on 24/7. ****m was dropping knowledge on everyone... Floyd kept saying the same tired rehearsed rubbish. Roger & floyd sr. Outwit floyd jr. Anyday... Haha.
                this is going to far lmao ****m sounded ****** as hell on 24/7 "you bite a cat and the cat is gon scratch" wtf??????/

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                • Originally posted by Tony Z View Post
                  Here's the thing if you were #1 p4p and you decided you didn't feel like fighting for a while so someone else came along, destroyed the people you had tough fights with, blew away another top contender in the same weight class and is declared the new #1 p4p fighter in the world if you have a problem with that because you feel you are still top dog then be a man and fight him. A champion doesn't start rumors with no basis to try to discredit someone else's career and use that as a way out of a fight...THE FIGHT, no he goes out to show the world why he was #1 in the first place. You can't take anything away from him for what he did to Mosley but that was marketing. He knew that was the only other fight that the boxing public would let him take to keep any credibility after he found a way out of the Pacquiao fight and it was the easier of the two(of course that plan almost backfired in the 2nd before Mosley decided that not throwing punches was the best way to win the fight). Either way I agree with everyone I only want to see the best fight the best and it's so rare that the number 1 and 2 p4p are in the same weight range that if it doesn't happen it's bull**** there is no excuse.


                  Good post! I think both fighters found away out of the fight. If they both wanted it so bad the fight would have been made. Honestly I think Manny wants to fight but, Roach wants to work on something with him first. I hope its how to fight going backwards.

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                  • Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
                    Damn this thread is on fire
                    I think the kids have gone to bed...

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                    • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                      im sorry dude, floyd is no ali...
                      just cuz he states that he is the greatest, doesnt mean he went through what ali did... ali was a social figure, civil rights, his stance against war, nation of islam.... ali spoke for a reason. plus, ali was a smooth dude. the man had style and charisma. his quotes were classic....
                      what does floyd got???
                      "all roads leads to mayweather"???
                      "40 tried, 40 failed"???
                      "theres no blueprint to floyd"????
                      WEAK!!!!!!!! floyd has no style and finesse. brother ****m stole the show on 24/7. ****m was dropping knowledge on everyone... floyd kept saying the same tired rehearsed rubbish. roger & floyd sr. outwit floyd jr. anyday... HAHA.
                      Brother ****m was dropping mad knowledge on everyone 1st with the gorilla stuff(and god damn it's about time they had someone real on the show to go there) then again with the dinner table discussions and yes Floyd's routine and ****** **** that he says is tired but that's why he has a good yes man in Ellerbe who don't know **** he just keeps telling him what he wants to hear. That's right the CEO of Mayweather promotions the company with no liscence and no fighters(ok they have cashflow and roger's kid).

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