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  • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
    i'm guessing you have never fought before and had to deal with cutting weight for a week up to a fight.

    not eating, not drinking, and still adding cardio to lose weight along with blood testing through the week of the fight can be very detrimental.

    you are just not getting it, not being a **** but you just can not comprehend it.

    its ok
    I comprehend you, I just don't agree with you. You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. Obviously not eating and drinking and working hard in an effort to lose plus having blood drawn can be detrimental, that goes without saying. No **** Sherlock. I'm saying that not eating or drinking for days while working hard to lose weight is detrimental to your health on it's own. Having a small amount of blood drawn is not detrimental to one's health on it's own. What part of that don't you understand? Will a person feel weaker after giving a small amount of blood after days of not eating and drinking? Probably. Will that person still be effected by the blood that they've had drawn from their body days after the fact? No.

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    • Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
      As long as it's not the day of the fight, no I don't think it's bad. Olympic athletes are tested hours before they compete, and some have even set world records after having blood drawn. I would say that trying to cut weight at the last minute has more effect on a fighter than having a small amount of blood drawn.
      ofcourse, independent doctors have came out and said that taking blood does not have any affect on any person let alone an athlete in terrific shape...just imagine if the table was turned and it was floyd ducking the test...the media would never had forgiven him...he would have been kicked out of boxing all together

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      • Originally posted by decipher View Post
        and what the hell are you telling me with that...yes you are correct but that is only proving my point...that is probably the reason why shane ducked him..cause he didnt want to lose to a nobody like floyd...funny how things work though..shane became that nobody and floyd ducked him after that just to show him a lesson..but the difference is that shane got a pass for ducking floyd and floyd did not get a pass for ducking shane..why cause floyd is the most hated boxer there is.
        we are not doing this duck who duck who

        dude posted 4 videos from 2005-2010 of shane calling floyd out

        secondly, people hate floyd because he is a classless douchebag

        my dad and uncle, huge fans of boxing from the 60,70,80,90's wont watch floyd because they feel he is a disgrace to the sport, a total classless thug with a thug family.


        dude this argument has gone on for 6 months, where have you been

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        • Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
          I comprehend you, I just don't agree with you. You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. Obviously not eating and drinking and working hard in an effort to lose plus having blood drawn can be detrimental, that goes without saying. No **** Sherlock. I'm saying that not eating or drinking for days while working hard to lose weight is detrimental to your health on it's own. Having a small amount of blood drawn is not detrimental to one's health on it's own. What part of that don't you understand? Will a person feel weaker after giving a small amount of blood after days of not eating and drinking? Probably. Will that person still be effected by the blood that they've had drawn from their body days after the fact? No.
          ok how many cc's of blood do they draw since you know?

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          • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
            You have to take into account that the casual fan I believe will watch a Pac fight for the way he fights.I like watching Floyd put on a master class but I'm a boxing fan.There are alot of casual fans who don't like Mayweather because of his fighting style.

            No doubt Manny brings a lot of excitement to boxing but now all he has to do is submit to testing for the good of boxing and we will get the biggest boxing match in the history of the sport.

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            • Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
              I comprehend you, I just don't agree with you. You're the one who doesn't seem to get it. Obviously not eating and drinking and working hard in an effort to lose plus having blood drawn can be detrimental, that goes without saying. No **** Sherlock. I'm saying that not eating or drinking for days while working hard to lose weight is detrimental to your health on it's own. Having a small amount of blood drawn is not detrimental to one's health on it's own. What part of that don't you understand? Will a person feel weaker after giving a small amount of blood after days of not eating and drinking? Probably. Will that person still be effected by the blood that they've had drawn from their body days after the fact? No.
              and for the 30000000th time i agreed with floyds cutoff

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              • People shouldnt make PBF favourite against Pac. Because to do so would make PBF think why should i fight him? Im favoured to beat him, and that is enough for me.
                Worst case scenario is he would lose if he did fight him. And its just might not be worth the risk, even for the money. The fact that he is favoured to beat Pac, may just be PBFs biggest ever achievement in the sport of boxing.

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                  Lol your funny. What I really said was:
                  Corrales@130
                  Castillo@135
                  Gatti@140
                  Hatton
                  Shane, Zab & Baldo@147
                  Oscar@154
                  and Martinez the lt-middle & middle-wt champion@160 would definitely make you have to mention Floyd in the top 5 all time because he would go down as the smartest ever. Was the Leonard/Hearns era far better? Absolutely but based on this era Floyd has to be top 5 not #1 but top 5. It'll be very hard to rank a lot of guys in front of him. Robinson is the man but if Floyd caps it off with the middle-wt title I would sit hit in or around the top 5.
                  Sorry my man he goes no were in the top 5 atg no matter who he beats.If he fights and beats Martinez it would have been the only prime fighter he has fought since JLC and how long ago was that.He would be top 25 somewhere in there but top 5 nah not even top 10.

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                  • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                    sugar you are killing me hahaha

                    floyd is phenomenal, a terrific athlete, fast , quick, agile, coordinated, a phenom defensive fighter.

                    but he is not in the top 25.

                    he has great accomplishments, but there are many before him who were far superior.

                    Lol, believe it or not I had Corrales over PBF and Floyd would not have beaten Leonard or Hearns but as far as his career goes gotta give it up dudes 41-0 aint no fly by night record against a bunch of stiffs. People act like Floyd is a natural Welter-wt when dude started out @130.

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                    • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                      because these guys have egos and mindsets none of us can comprehend

                      for 40 million dollars i would fight vitali, tonight!!!


                      these guys are rich, established superstars...

                      their thinking is much different
                      It's not "their" thinking that I don't understand, it's Pacquiao's thinking that I don't understand. I understand where Mayweather is coming from, he's been consistent. The drug testing demands were in the contract on his behalf from the very beginning. It's Pacquiao and his team that have been all over the place. You seem to be making excuses from him and his inconsistency when you say that you understand his side while putting the blame on both sides. Pacquiao and his ego/insecurity isn't a reasonable excuse in my opinion. If he is refusing to comply with Mayweather's requests simply because of ego or because somebody's accusations hurt his "pride", then he needs to be held accountable for that by the true fans of the sport.

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