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  • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
    well said

    these floyd fans will not attempt to will see things in pacs shoes

    these are both superstars with egos we cannot begin to be capable of comprehending, unless there is a superstar on this forum haha

    both guys have their views, manny is prob mad floyd discredited all of his accomplishments by throwing the roidcard at him

    i know i would be
    to be honest, if i was #1 p4p... i would say f** off and make my money elsewhere. i would fight another opponent, take USADA and prove everyone wrong... then refuse USADA with floyd. LOL. like a previous poster said, negotiations always include ring size, purse split, gloves, etc..... USADA is something completely different... i DONT oppose the idea. but i understand if a fighter were to decline.... ESPECIALLY since there is no proof. on top of that, team mayweather RUINED manny's reputation by making those allegations.... and YES, manny is making it worse by refusing.... but NOBODY was speaking of PEDs before floyd sr. opened his mouth & planted the seed.... so all of these people jumping on the bandwagon is a classic case of a manipulator herding all the sheep.

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    • Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
      You people really need to stop convincing yourselves that the amount of blood taken for a drug test is somehow detrimental to your health. Use your brains people. You have the internet, no excuses.
      i said if you are not eating for days or drinking trying to lose weight then losing vials of blood is detrimental

      i work in a hospital i see it first hand, dont need to look it up online

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      • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Rome, that's a fine post (why can't everyone make sense like this?). That said...it IS up to the fighter. It is their health on the line, their life. Why should they have to wait 100 years for the commissions to wake up? No way. I fully support any fighter who wants more stringent testing. Props to Sugar Shane for doing what he had to do.
        Thanks Imdazed have'int seen you in awhile hope all is well.Nah just saying alot of posters are going back and forth with this.It's simple they are both to blame for the fight not coming off.No one has to do anything they don't want to they can both get money elsewhere the only one's who will suffer is us the fan's.

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        • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
          great era in boxing

          duran, hagler, leonard, hearns, ali, frazier, foreman, robinson

          all those guys have losses because they fought the best

          no excuses,
          look at chavez jr, hes 40 or 41-0, does any1 give 2 ****s about it? no!!! why?? cuz hes fought nothin but bums, thats why. if you have an impressive resume and have 2 loses, id respect you alot more.

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          • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
            to be honest, if i was #1 p4p... i would say f** off and make my money elsewhere. i would fight another opponent, take USADA and prove everyone wrong... then refuse USADA with floyd. LOL. like a previous poster said, negotiations always include ring size, purse split, gloves, etc..... USADA is something completely different... i DONT oppose the idea. but i understand if a fighter were to decline.... ESPECIALLY since there is no proof. on top of that, team mayweather RUINED manny's reputation by making those allegations.... and YES, manny is making it worse by refusing.... but NOBODY was speaking of PEDs before floyd sr. opened his mouth & planted the seed.... so all of these people jumping on the bandwagon is a classic case of a manipulator herding all the sheep.
            i completely agree

            people are choosing sides too easily.

            im not saying pac is on something or not. and in all honesty i would have taken the tests and whooped his ass to make him look bad if i was pac.

            having said that, i can completely understand him saying who the **** is he and his thug ass dad spreading rumors saying i am a cheater. ill make my money elsewhere and im not contributing to floyd making any money..ever

            but the fact he started negotiations and didnt agree does make him look bad in a way in which i can understand.

            i dont think he disagreed because he wants to use roids at a certain point, i think he disagreed because he doesnt want blood drawn that close to a fight.

            understandable both views for me, because i am not looking at this biased either way

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            • Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua View Post
              man, please. your a ****ing ******. dont flip it. on top of that, you think your some1 with more knowledge about this sport cuz you hang out with boxing people. sorry dude, your just another dumb mayweather fan 2 me. peace!!!

              Peace is the best thing you've said my dude cause I'm not here for the BS, I'm here because I love the sport of boxing. Mad props to some of the very intelligent posters here cause it's my pleasure to talk boxing with you. We all have something to offer each other and I enjoy the hell out of every minute of it.

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              • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                indeed... tommy hearns even said that back in his days, fights were made... negotiations didnt take as long & fights got signed... the best fought the best. PERIOD. no excuses about someone not being in his prime, because EVERYONE was close to their primes when they fought. classic era in boxing.
                Now adays guy's are worried about B.S. IMO.Hey I don't knock floyd for not wanting to take punishment like he said there is nothing kool about it.But you are a boxer and owe it to the sport and those who came before you as does every other boxer who's fighting right now to give it your all and fight the top guy's when they are at the top of their games.Floyd takes alot of flack because he has not done this all the time in his career.

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                  Lol, come on Rome you know the 24 day thing is BS. If the test isn't random it's useless and you know it.
                  The test would still be random it just would not go down to the wire like it did with Mosley.

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                  • Well if somthing wrong is said about floyd that person's a ******* or whatever the hell people copyright nowerdays at that person!! the person didn't even have to know if he knows who PAC is he's still a ******* and if somthing is said bad about PAC that mans a *****, flamingo etc etc..and even that man doesn't even have to know who floyd is he already has ben labled..u can't base your opinion witout being labled cuz each fan of each fighter gets pissed if somthing bad is spoken about them and what's the result..u get labled..these guys r trying to die for their fighters which insaingly halarious to say the least

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                    • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                      i completely agree

                      people are choosing sides too easily.

                      im not saying pac is on something or not. and in all honesty i would have taken the tests and whooped his ass to make him look bad if i was pac.

                      having said that, i can completely understand him saying who the **** is he and his thug ass dad spreading rumors saying i am a cheater. ill make my money elsewhere and im not contributing to floyd making any money..ever

                      but the fact he started negotiations and didnt agree does make him look bad in a way in which i can understand.

                      i dont think he disagreed because he wants to use roids at a certain point, i think he disagreed because he doesnt want blood drawn that close to a fight.

                      understandable both views for me, because i am not looking at this biased either way

                      You just made a valid point. Which is the best thing to do:
                      Take the test and attempt to kick his ass or
                      Say who the **** is he **** him?
                      Why not just take the test for your fans then try to kick Floyd's ass?
                      Especially when your known for getting away with outrageous demands yourself. Manny is acting like a dude that loves to have his way and the reality is Floyd is by far the bigger draw. 51-3-2 is a great record to a boxing fan but to the average person 41-0 is the sh-t.

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