Comments Thread For: Larry Merchant on Floyd Mayweather, History and Legacy

[decipher]

are you kidding?

in 2000 shane and oscar were ppv stars

floyd was unheardof to the casual fan

floyd was not a ppv until what, gatti?

come on,

and what the hell are you telling me with that...yes you are correct but that is only proving my point...that is probably the reason why shane ducked him..cause he didnt want to lose to a nobody like floyd...funny how things work though..shane became that nobody and floyd ducked him after that just to show him a lesson..but the difference is that shane got a pass for ducking floyd and floyd did not get a pass for ducking shane..why cause floyd is the most hated boxer there is.

[Rome-By-Ko]

to be honest, if i was #1 p4p... i would say f** off and make my money elsewhere. i would fight another opponent, take USADA and prove everyone wrong... then refuse USADA with floyd. LOL. like a previous poster said, negotiations always include ring size, purse split, gloves, etc..... USADA is something completely different... i DONT oppose the idea. but i understand if a fighter were to decline.... ESPECIALLY since there is no proof. on top of that, team mayweather RUINED manny's reputation by making those allegations.... and YES, manny is making it worse by refusing.... but NOBODY was speaking of PEDs before floyd sr. opened his mouth & planted the seed.... so all of these people jumping on the bandwagon is a classic case of a manipulator herding all the sheep.

Great post totally agree.

[thatnickuh]

did i say pac?

where did i say pac?


i was saying the problem with that test in general

and i agreed to the 14 day cutoff

I didn't say that you mnetioned Pacquiao. I have read some of your other posts talking about Pacquiao and how you understood both sides though. If you agreed with the 14 day cut off, then how can you understand Pacquiao's side? How do you explain why he still walked away from the fight with the 14-day cut off on the table when his excuse(1 of them) is that he didn't want to be tested really close to fight night?

Use you brain or better yet use experience when I got blood drawn from me recently I felt week and was drinking hella OJ to try to get myself together.Everybody's body is different and reacts a different way.

I've had blood drawn as well, and I didn't feel weak at all. So what? The bottomline is that any doctor or licensed physician will balk at the idea of anybody's body being weakened days after having a small amount of blood drawn. I don't care how different you want to believe Pacquiao's body is, he's not going to be weakened on fight night from a blood test that he took days before.

[amayseng]

Lol your funny. What I really said was:
Corrales@130
Castillo@135
Gatti@140
Hatton
Shane, Zab & Baldo@147
Oscar@154
and Martinez the lt-middle & middle-wt champion@160 would definitely make you have to mention Floyd in the top 5 all time because he would go down as the smartest ever. Was the Leonard/Hearns era far better? Absolutely but based on this era Floyd has to be top 5 not #1 but top 5. It'll be very hard to rank a lot of guys in front of him. Robinson is the man but if Floyd caps it off with the middle-wt title I would sit hit in or around the top 5.

sugar you are killing me hahaha

floyd is phenomenal, a terrific athlete, fast , quick, agile, coordinated, a phenom defensive fighter.

but he is not in the top 25.

he has great accomplishments, but there are many before him who were far superior.

[Motofan]

I agree with about 99% of what Larry said there. Other then the if the fight isnt made it will be looked at as if Floyd didnt want it. That part I disagree with. But the rest is spot on.

[decipher]

ya there in lies the problem with that test.

if you havent eaten food or drank water for days, then they take blood that will be detrimental to your health, definitely


i think a 14 day cutoff should be good with the test following the fight in the locker room

i think that should be agreeable

detrimental to your health? please save it...both fighters are taking the same test...as long as the rules are the same no fighter will benefit...so that excuse is out the window...you keep trying to find grounds for pacs excuses on why he not taking the test...lets be reasonable.

[amayseng]

I didn't say that you mnetioned Pacquiao. I have read some of your other posts talking about Pacquiao and how you understood both sides though. If you agreed with the 14 day cut off, then how can you understand Pacquiao's side? How do you explain why he still walked away from the fight with the 14-day cut off on the table when his excuse(1 of them) is that he didn't want to be tested really close to fight night?I've had blood drawn as well, and I didn't feel weak at all. So what? The bottomline is that any doctor or licensed physician will balk at the idea of anybody's body being weakened days after having a small amount of blood drawn. I don't care how different you want to believe Pacquiao's body is, he's not going to be weakened on fight night from a blood test that he took days before.

because these guys have egos and mindsets none of us can comprehend

for 40 million dollars i would fight vitali, tonight!!!


these guys are rich, established superstars...

their thinking is much different

and you said pac wasnt losing weight, i said i never mentioned pac, and i didnt

i was talking about the test in general

[amayseng]

detrimental to your health? please save it...both fighters are taking the same test...as long as the rules are the same no fighter will benefit...so that excuse is out the window...you keep trying to find grounds for pacs excuses on why he not taking the test...lets be reasonable.

READ my POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


i never mentioned pac, i mentioned the test in general and how it could be detrimental to a guy who is drying out for a week or more


you are trying to argue with something i never spoke about

[Rome-By-Ko]

You just made a valid point. Which is the best thing to do:
Take the test and attempt to kick his ass or
Say who the **** is he **** him?
Why not just take the test for your fans then try to kick Floyd's ass?
Especially when your known for getting away with outrageous demands yourself. Manny is acting like a dude that loves to have his way and the reality is Floyd is by far the bigger draw. 51-3-2 is a great record to a boxing fan but to the average person 41-0 is the sh-t.

You have to take into account that the casual fan I believe will watch a Pac fight for the way he fights.I like watching Floyd put on a master class but I'm a boxing fan.There are alot of casual fans who don't like Mayweather because of his fighting style.

[Sugar Q]

how saying all this but all u ever post is dumb **** about mayweather and get pissed when ever some1 isnt sucking him the way u think he deserves 2 be ******. dont play the humble role now.

There's 2 choices here:
Be ignorant as hell like you or be the bigger man and not get caught up in some BS virtual conversation with the Internet Lone Ranger. I chose the first. I'm a former fighter so I can get very aggressive but that would be some ole punk sh-t that I'm not on so I prefer to take the high road. Humbleness is Godliness my dude and I don't play games so you got the wrong one. Ignore me and I'll ignore you and life goes on. :-)