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  • Originally posted by Mr.Smith View Post
    Good points but, the truth is racism is still here. It's just in more suttle ways and behind closed doors. Everything else you said is pretty on point. If you looked at Floyd before he became "Money" and before he became and ******* before fights he got "0" recognition from the casual fans. He had no hype who the hell wants to see a pure boxer other than true boxing fans? Why do you think MMA is doing so well? People want to see blood and guts not skill.
    another thing then im out till tomorrow

    pbf was never a ppv draw until he fought gatti

    then he really became a draw by beating dlh

    that paved the way for him, he beat the most popular boxer in the usa along with hbo 24 7 which made him

    he did dancing with the stars, wwf and was highly popular''

    no way he is selling fights talking all that trash when he doesnt bring it to the ring, the mike tyson killer instinct that is, that is what intrigued fans to buy those ppvs

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
      But love him or hate him it's working.
      no read my other recent two posts


      people arent buying the fights because they go expecting mike tyson from him



      he has always been a boxer, everyone on earth knows this

      they are spending money on him to watch him box

      he could represent a better way

      i would expect him to be smarter about it,

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      • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
        Truthfully speaking it is very racist for a man that's the far bigger draw to be expected to bow to a man that's much less of a draw than him. This isn't usually allowed and it's not right. Since when is the lesser draw in the position to call the shots? Your right, Manny is a draw but Floyd is the far bigger draw and that's a fact and that does not equal a 50/50 split. Manny without Floyd equals a rematch with Cotto or a Cheato fight.
        shane was the champ, but didnt get a rematch clause.... floyd did.
        floyd also disregarded the belt.... so he basically avoids mandatories and other champions wanting to unify.... granted, sanctioning bodies are rubbish, but you gotta respect a champion that takes all comers and defends his belt.

        b-hop. 20 defenses. respect philly

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        • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
          another thing then im out till tomorrow

          pbf was never a ppv draw until he fought gatti

          then he really became a draw by beating dlh

          that paved the way for him, he beat the most popular boxer in the usa along with hbo 24 7 which made him

          he did dancing with the stars, wwf and was highly popular''

          no way he is selling fights talking all that trash when he doesnt bring it to the ring, the mike tyson killer instinct that is, that is what intrigued fans to buy those ppvs
          That and they want the guy he is fighting to shut him up. Most people want the guys Floyd fight to KO Floyd not watch Floyd KO anyone.

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          • Here's the thing if you were #1 p4p and you decided you didn't feel like fighting for a while so someone else came along, destroyed the people you had tough fights with, blew away another top contender in the same weight class and is declared the new #1 p4p fighter in the world if you have a problem with that because you feel you are still top dog then be a man and fight him. A champion doesn't start rumors with no basis to try to discredit someone else's career and use that as a way out of a fight...THE FIGHT, no he goes out to show the world why he was #1 in the first place. You can't take anything away from him for what he did to Mosley but that was marketing. He knew that was the only other fight that the boxing public would let him take to keep any credibility after he found a way out of the Pacquiao fight and it was the easier of the two(of course that plan almost backfired in the 2nd before Mosley decided that not throwing punches was the best way to win the fight). Either way I agree with everyone I only want to see the best fight the best and it's so rare that the number 1 and 2 p4p are in the same weight range that if it doesn't happen it's bull**** there is no excuse.

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            • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
              Yo Floyd got Hollywood, sports figures, dude is pimpin Chilli's reality show right now. Floyd is a big star. far bigger than Manny trust me. The Dancing with Stars thing was huge.
              HAHAHA. floyd is promoting his ASS off indeed....
              i dont care what they say, pac is NOT A SINGER, ACTOR, ETC. LOL.
              no argument on floyd bringing in money. some of that credit HAS to go to GBP right? ;P im sure they put their work in too

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              • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                to be honest, if i was #1 p4p... i would say f** off and make my money elsewhere. i would fight another opponent, take USADA and prove everyone wrong... then refuse USADA with floyd. LOL. like a previous poster said, negotiations always include ring size, purse split, gloves, etc..... USADA is something completely different... i DONT oppose the idea. but i understand if a fighter were to decline.... ESPECIALLY since there is no proof. on top of that, team mayweather RUINED manny's reputation by making those allegations.... and YES, manny is making it worse by refusing.... but NOBODY was speaking of PEDs before floyd sr. opened his mouth & planted the seed.... so all of these people jumping on the bandwagon is a classic case of a manipulator herding all the sheep.
                Right on WAX, perception runs both ways!!!

                MINE is that BOY used it to AVOID a REAL
                CHALLENGE!!!

                After following him fight cats way out of his,
                leauge for years, my perception is he used
                the testing B.S. to AVOID a CAT that might
                kick his ASS!!!

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                • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                  no read my other recent two posts


                  people arent buying the fights because they go expecting mike tyson from him



                  he has always been a boxer, everyone on earth knows this

                  they are spending money on him to watch him box

                  he could represent a better way

                  i would expect him to be smarter about it,

                  I think if people really wanted to see him "Box" and not just go slug it out like he has no skill you would see the post fight press conference Floyd and "Money" Mayweather might be RIP...

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                  • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                    that is the thing, with tweezy if you disagree then it is always a racist argument
                    turns everything around to racism

                    you know what, we can disagree without it being racist.


                    hey you know what, floyd has a big abnoxious mouth, he is disrespectful and harms the sport with his mouth and immaturity. he was on jim rome two days before the shane fight and when jim was asking legitimate questions he responds with his punk ass mouth saying that "opinions are like *******s, everyone has one"-------------430, prime time and that is how floyd represents and advertises the sport. jim has had floyd on two times before and trying to give the sport some air time and attention and that is how floyd does his interview, like a punk big mouth

                    he should be carrying the sport with pride, he is the most well known american boxer but instead of carrying the torch and being an ambassador of the sport he drowns it to the casual fan

                    that is the problem with floyd, it isnt because he is black, its time to let the racist bull**** go

                    indeed, me and sugar Q go back and forth all day. LOL. no racism. all boxing... thats how its suppose to be.

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                    • Originally posted by rommel357 View Post
                      This says it all, thanks Larry, you da man.
                      Its not about how much you bleed or try to take the other guys head off recklessly either. Merchant has resorted more and more to emotional bs in his analysis as he grows older and im sick of it. Give me Al Bernstein any day of the week 100x over this guy thats a guy that loves and appreciates all the nuances of boxing. Does anybody remember when Mosely knocked out Mayorga in the last second Larry Merchant: "I love you Shane Mosely" despite the fact that Mosely looked like absolute **** and almost lost to freakin Ricardo Mayorga, it was a ****ty performance but Larry got his knockout. He just hates great boxers, he wants fighters all the time.

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