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  • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
    It's not all about race Tweezy my friend.It's about mouth.Floyd talks about himself being the best EVER hey he has a right to think but to say it and down play fighters from a way better era then this one is foolish and ****** IMO.It's also why he get's so much flack the most prime fighter he fought since JLC(and he was not really prime)was Hatton lol Hatton.This is why he talk's **** about were he place should be in history but when he had the chance to prove it he said he had nothing left to prove in the sport and retired.Think if he fought a prime Cotto a younger Mosley and Marga's at the peak of his Career he would be praise there will be no argument.Black people love to pull the race card because that means they don't have to take responsibility for what come's out their mouths or their actions.Floyd brings alot on him self because of what he claims to be without proof(something like what he did with pac)Ali talk alot and was not like but he fought monsters in their primes nuff said Ali greatest of all time May had his chance but did not take the chance and that's the difference not his skin COLOR.
    Skill level is skill level. When you step in that ring everyone can see your skill level. So I don't buy this talk about Floyd didn't prove himself. Just because floyd didn't fight someone doesn't mean he can't beat them. And I think that most of the people making that argument are assuming. The hate on Floyd does have to do with race. And it seems nowadays people get away with racism because all they have to say is black people are trying to pull the race card. I don't have any cards in my pocket i'm just tellin it like it is. People love to talk about how marquez and hatton are soo small but yet pacquiao is the same damn size. Now how can you explain that? Floyd never wanted to fight Mosley not because he was scared but because he knew what they would say. He did an interview after pac fought cotto and it's on youtube where he says what the people will say after he beats Mosley. And he was right on. Now how would he know that? But yet before the fight people like yourself we're saying how Mosley was gonna win and right after the fight Mosley got old over night he gassed out after 2 ****in rounds? give me a break. Floyd will never get the respect he deserves because he's a rich black man that speaks his mind nuff said.

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    • Originally posted by yevskiy426 View Post
      No you dont, we all want Pac, i dont care what anyone says, they want Pac/Floyd more then ANY other fight
      So, you are mind reader who knows that everyone wants Mayweather to fight Pac, even when they say they don't. Since you are such a brilliant psychic, please tell us in which round Mayweather will KO Pac if and when they fight?

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      • and ya'll hate on Merchant when he is spot on!!!!!!!!!

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        • Originally posted by amayseng View Post
          im not siding with manny

          i think floyd is the best active boxer today, a phenomenal talent and fighter


          but NO way top 5

          NO WAY
          NO way top 555....GREAT FIGHTERS are
          defined by who they FIGHT, not who they
          AVOID!!!

          Watch tapes of CARMEN BASILLIO, and ask
          yourself, HOW BOY would cope with HIM???

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          • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
            No GREAT FIGHTER ever AVOIDED fighting
            the BEST, BOY's LEGACY is set, as a
            PUNK OUT artist EXCEPTIONAL!!!

            Sorry all U "PURISTS"...that think this CAT is
            GREAT......but he's not evan CLOSE!!!
            All Im saying is if Floyd goes 42-0 with 6 different division world titles that sh-t will be looked at as amazing 10-20 years from now. There's not many people Floyd was suppose to fight that he didn't. The Manny fight not happening doesn't fall on Floyd this is a huge business and it takes 2 to make a superfight.
            If Floyd fights martinez and Martinez submits to OST like he said he would where will Manny go from there.

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            • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
              Because you or nobody else was saying anything about Peds with Pac before May said something about it.Which means were is the proof?If I was Pac I would say Suck my D*#K Floyd.I heard this argument alot I feel both have valid reasoning but if I'm Pac I'm not bending to May because he wants to change the rules.He could have went to the comm.But he did not he feel's he is bigger then the sport so why should Mannybend to Mayweather?If may went talk to the comm and they said cool we are putting this in for this fight then Pac refused then I would say nah Pac what the hell.But for him to tell another fight no I don't see a problem with that.
              Mayweather doesn't need Pacquiao. Pacquiao needs Mayweather. There is nothing that Mayweather can do to Pacquiao that hasn't been done already. He's been KO'd, outboxed, lost a decision, has a couple of draws I mean come on what is there to gain? But flip it around. Mayweather has NEVER lost. Pacquiao would be the first! And noone would ever forget that. Mayweather is already making more money and selling more ppv's than pac is now. Everyone else who actually WANTS to fight Mayweather are willing to take the test. Obviously pac is cheating or he doesn't want to fight Mayweather there's just no other way around it. It is what it is.

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              • Originally posted by decipher View Post
                beating martinez would do wonders for floyds career but wont make him top 5 i agree with u..but answer me this...your #2 top 5 is mosely and floyd just embarrased him..how you feel about that?
                Thats my top five favorite fighters, not my top five all time fighters in history


                big difference.

                i dont think a 39 year old was embarrassed almost knocking out sugars top 5 all time ever do you?

                ha

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                • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
                  NO way top 555....GREAT FIGHTERS are
                  defined by who they FIGHT, not who they
                  AVOID!!!
                  If this is the case, then I am sure you don't consider Pac a "great fighter" or a top 5 ATG. He fought over-the-hill fighters in Morales, Barrerra, second rate fighters in David Diaz and Joshua Clottey, guys who had their best skills beaten out of them in Cotto and Hatton and a past his prime, weight-drained De La Hoya. None of these victories would be considered great victories by a non-biased fan or historian.

                  He has avoided Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell, and other top fighters at 135 as well as Shane Mosley and is presently avoiding Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander and Paul Williams. Based in this record, Pac is barely mediocre!!!

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                  • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
                    NO way top 555....GREAT FIGHTERS are
                    defined by who they FIGHT, not who they
                    AVOID!!!

                    Watch tapes of CARMEN BASILLIO, and ask
                    yourself, HOW BOY would cope with HIM???
                    good to see you are back my friend

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                    • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                      All Im saying is if Floyd goes 42-0 with 6 different division world titles that sh-t will be looked at as amazing 10-20 years from now. There's not many people Floyd was suppose to fight that he didn't. The Manny fight not happening doesn't fall on Floyd this is a huge business and it takes 2 to make a superfight.
                      If Floyd fights martinez and Martinez submits to OST like he said he would where will Manny go from there.
                      it would be impressive

                      BUT NOT TOP 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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