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  • geribeetus
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    #21
    Originally posted by tourlou82
    Steward's version ???

    It is Steward's version that got beat by Brewster.

    Yes, Wlad has improved since his last loss, but what do you think he has particularly improved in his game that makes you believe he has better responses to all-out attack on him ? Who has dared to attack him the way Sanders and Brewster did since he last lost ??? Nobody.

    Well Peter did, but not consistently enough. He did have some success, he scored 3 KD. The pushes and the punches in the back of the head that resulted in 2 KD showed that Wlad has trouble when he's being brutalized and showed no respect.
    if i remember correctly steward didn't start training wlad until the peter fight

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    • Tiozzo
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      #22
      Originally posted by geribeetus
      if i remember correctly steward didn't start training wlad until the peter fight


      watch, when Wlad goes back to his corner, you can see Steward

      you can see him in the other video I posted too in the corner between rounds

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #23
        Corrie Sanders Knocked down both Vitali and his sister:

        Keep in mind that Corrie is nothing more than a 38 year old golfer who was stopped by Rahman in his younger years.



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          #24
          Originally posted by Soir
          Corrie Sanders Knocked down both Vitali and his sister:

          Keep in mind that Corrie is nothing more than a 38 year old golfer who was stopped by Rahman in his younger years.
          It would be better not to turn this into a hate thread, cause this is not the purpose here

          I had a topic, and arguments to back it up, this kind of comment doesn't add anything to the discussion

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          • intoccabile
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            #25
            What am i reading., Brewster got his ass beat by a dumb version of wlad who didn't know how NOT to blow his load.

            that would never happen today.

            and someone called vitali safety first....wtf are you smoking?

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            • Tiozzo
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              #26
              Originally posted by Klitschko2009
              Wlad completely dominates Brewster and makes him QUIT in 6 rounds.
              we must honor Wlad for rematching Brewster since this is the only loss he avenged himself

              with that said, Wlad is a clever man
              he picked his moment well to rematch Brewster
              when the rematch happened, Brewster was coming off a 15 months lay-off because he suffered a detached retina in his last fight against Liakhovich, a bout he also lost

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              • Joeyzagz
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                #27
                Originally posted by tourlou82
                It would be better not to turn this into a hate thread, cause this is not the purpose here

                I had a topic, and arguments to back it up, this kind of comment doesn't add anything to the discussion
                Sanders was already in this thread when I got here, I just mentioned that he was 38 and played golf.

                And yes its on topic...Corrie did not have any respect for Glass-wlad and literally began teeing off on him from the opening bell.

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                • intoccabile
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tourlou82
                  we must honor Wlad for rematching Brewster since this is the only loss he avenged himself

                  with that said, Wlad is a clever man
                  he picked his moment well to rematch Brewster
                  when the rematch happened, Brewster was coming off a 15 months lay-off because he suffered a detached retina in his last fight against Liakhovich, a bout he also lost

                  Look man. That version of wlad also had a much higher punch output and threw a much larger variety of punches. Overall he was a punching machine.

                  Today he is very technical and more methodical in his approach. He's a completely different fighter. The defensive core is still there. Clinch, use your size to take our your opponenets legs etc - but his offense is very calculated now and he wouldn't expend himself as he would previously.

                  He was an offensive machine, now he's more of a defensive machine. He's more more laid back and comfortable in there. I think you fail to see the subtle AND drastic changes he's made.

                  Not to mention, the fact that he carries people to decisions or (LATE) stoppages IMO is more evidence that his loss to Brewster has plagued him, he doesn't want to risk going all out unsuccessfully again. Each loss has mad him stronger IMO, you see it in his game. He's methodical because of the brewster fight ,he's defensive because of the sanders fight.

                  Those losses helped create what we have today, I wouldn't expect him to have those issues again. Although a well planted punch to the face really doesn't give him a choice. ANyone goes out to that, but the chances are far more unlikely now.

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                  • Joeyzagz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by intoccabile
                    Look man. That version of wlad also had a much higher punch output and threw a much larger variety of punches. Overall he was a punching machine.

                    Today he is very technical and more methodical in his approach. He's a completely different fighter. The defensive core is still there. Clinch, use your size to take our your opponenets legs etc - but his offense is very calculated now and he wouldn't expend himself as he would previously.

                    He was an offensive machine, now he's more of a defensive machine. He's more more laid back and comfortable in there. I think you fail to see the subtle AND drastic changes he's made.

                    Not to mention, the fact that he carries people to decisions or (LATE) stoppages IMO is more evidence that his loss to Brewster has plagued him, he doesn't want to risk going all out unsuccessfully again. Each loss has mad him stronger IMO, you see it in his game. He's methodical because of the brewster fight ,he's defensive because of the sanders fight.

                    Those losses helped create what we have today, I wouldn't expect him to have those issues again. Although a well planted punch to the face really doesn't give him a choice. ANyone goes out to that, but the chances are far more unlikely now.
                    The only thing thats changed is his opponent selection Since Peter(his last legit threat) hes faced aging 36 yr old thompson, 36 yr old stegaurus Austin, a couple of soft Eastern Euro fighters, and a feather fisted Eddie Chambers who he outweighed by 35 lbs.

                    Hes not better the HWD just sucks.

                    Go find one HW besides Valuev who outwighs his opponents by 35 lbs!

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                    • Earl-Hickey
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                      #30
                      Correct, Wlad is uncomfortable under pressure.

                      Many of his recent opponents have been flat footed fighters (even chambers looked flat) who shuffle slowly forward, and ususlaly only throw jabs.

                      I'd argue we havn't seen anyone really attack Wlad in several years.

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