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[QUOTE=O.S.I.R.I.S;8333925]Since you insist
Floyd was over 155 in the Marquez fight. Marquez and Pac (although only 4lbs apart come fightnight) are the same size. Why are you comparing weigh in weights (May & Marquez) to fight night weights (Pac & JMM)? Come on man…………..
Because they were in the same weight class. Marquez was two weight classes below Mayweather so in no shape or form is that the same thing as fighting a bigger Corrales or Castillo who were in the same weight class as Floyd when he fought them
Dude everyone knows Hatton’s best weight is 140. This isn’t even disputable seeing that he was undeated at 140, yet looked like **** against Collazo at 147. Again are you serious with this statement? So according to this statement Duran (who ballooned over 200lbs in between fights) should have been really fighting at Light Heavy Weight. Also why was he considered the smaller man against Hearns and Hagler then, considering he got over 200lbs in between fights. In none of those fights, including Leonard vs Duran 2, was Duran considered the bigger man. What even funnier is that he weight over 170 a month before he fought SRL and had to cut a **** load of weight...yet people still considered him to smaller guy.
Mosley was not shot, was a top 3 WW when Floyd beat him….full credit with no hate or excuses for that win.
Dominated in compubox stats? What fight were you watching.
Here is a pic, since I was just watching it earlier
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How is only landing 15 more punches constitute as dominating someone in compubox statistics? Pac won 7 rounds to 5....115 to 112. Close fight, but in no way shape or form was that a domination by either fighter.
First of all, DLH has only himself to blame. He tried to cherry pick a LW and not only that, but tried to come in lighter to prove a point (since he was facing so much heat for ducking Tony to fight a LW).
Also DLH was coming to 147 as mentioned in an ESPN article with Dan Rafael almost a full year b4 he fought Pac. He was trying to Face Cotto at 147, Tony crushes Miguel so Oscar tries to cherry pick Manny.Manny showed up to the fight and it's not his fault Oscar was a dumb@ss. Oscar has been a professional for over a decade and it's his job to show up...not Manny's
BTW this same past his prime Oscar was signed to fight Floyd in a rematch until Floyd retired. He was good enough for a rematch with the P4P king, but not a undersized LW?
1) marquez - first of all, there has been nothing concrete posted on floyd's fightnight weight.....it wasn't revealed by HBO, and floyd has never rehydrated more than a few lbs. between the weigh-in, and the actual fight. so your 155 is merely specualtion, just as it's specualtion that floyd was over 160, when he faces mosely.
in other words, if you have PROOF, feel free to post a link....
2) hatton - surely his best weight was 140, but you're going to tell me, manny deserves a ton of credit for that win, b/c he fought hatton at 140, while ignoring the fact hatton was KTFO a year earlier?
name any fighter that has come back, at any sort of resemblance to themselves, after being KTFO, at any weight.....
3) DLH & cotto.....
surely it was oscar's own fought for picking on manny and taking the fight at 147. it was also a stipulation in the contract, that oscar couldn't rehydrate over 147, even for the fight....so yea it was oscar's fault for agreeing to that too. yet and still, even though it was his own agreeing to, does that make it any more of a better victory for manny, by fighting a severly weak and weight-drained dlh, who hadn't fought at 147 in 10 years, who by freddie roach's own admission "couldn't pull the trigger anymore?" i don't think oscar agreeing to the stipulations, takes away from the facts of the fight.
cotto - i doubt he "suggested" 145, as much as "agreeing" to 145, as opposed to 143. i seriously think, had cotto had it his way, he would've "suggested" 147. but cotto agreed, and manny won, but like 147 wasn't jmm and hatton's "best weights" as you suggested, 145 and 147 weren't cotto and oscar's best weights either....respectively.
4) clottey - i "shudder" at the word's "dominating performance" when i hear pacquiao-clottey being described.....fact is, you look at each fighter's face after the fight, and you tell me who it looked like had gotten "dominated."
fact is, manny won more rounds than clottey, but as opposed to him doing more damage, it just seemed like clottey was content to show he could block most of the punches pacquiao threw. for his sake, pacquiao should be grateful clottey was intent on blocking punches, rather than throwing more of his own. with the fraction of the punches he did throw, he found his mark pretty easily, and i insist manny neither looked good, nor dominated clottey...
once again, i could care less about any FOTD awards, but at the same time, let's not OVERSTATE 1 fighter's achievments, and UNDERSTATE another's....Comment
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