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  • odogg8121
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    #51
    Originally posted by BuckToothed
    Boxers don't build up stamina/strength 24 days before fight night, they do it the 3 months prior.
    Please name this drug that can provide significant stamina/strength within a 24 days window.
    EPO.....ZING! lol look it up....

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      #52
      Originally posted by odogg8121
      No he wont, PEDs are used in a cycle. The cycle will have it out of ur system by the fight...which means after the fight testing wont do anything.
      Please stop saying PEDs, it's like saying Mammals will eat you in one bite... which mammal???

      Don't say HGH also, last I checked, its benefit is reap during off season and not 24 days prior to fight night. That's why USADA performs OST year-round when olympians are potentially taking them during off season.

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        #53
        Boxers don't build up stamina/strength 24 days before fight night, they do it the 3 months prior.
        Please name this drug that can provide significant stamina/strength within a 24 days window.
        it's something from the philippine military. LOL something that keeps u moving forward after u get hit by a bullet.
        watta joke!

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        • fugu
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          #54
          Originally posted by BuckToothed
          Boxers don't build up stamina/strength 24 days before fight night, they do it the 3 months prior.
          Please name this drug that can provide significant stamina/strength within a 24 days window.
          So of what use is a 8-week training camp?
          For fun?

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            #55
            Originally posted by BuckToothed
            Please stop saying PEDs, it's like saying Mammals will eat you in one bite... which mammal???

            Don't say HGH also, last I checked, its benefit is reap during off season and not 24 days prior to fight night. That's why USADA performs OST year-round when olympians are potentially taking them during off season.
            Fare enough I am referring to EPO...

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            • BuckToothed
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              #56
              Originally posted by odogg8121
              EPO.....ZING! lol look it up....
              Oh I forgot, 24 days window in regards to blood testings PEDs...
              PBF and PAC agreed on unlimited urine test all the way up to fight night.

              Originally posted by http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.html
              Fortunately, testing technology has now caught up and promises to stem the tide of abuse. There is now an accurate urine test that can detect the differences between normal and synthetic EPO. This test is now the standard and was the sole means to detect for EPO use in the 2004 Athens Olympic Games. The reliability of this test helps explain the cascade of athletes who have been caught and, subsequently, banned from competition. This surge in positive tests will likely decline as the “word” gets out and EPO use declines -- at least until someone figures out a work-around. Of course, there is always the next great pharmacologic or genetic cheat just lurking around the corner to consider.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #57
                Originally posted by BuckToothed
                Oh I forgot, 24 days window in regards to blood testings PEDs...
                PBF and PAC agreed on unlimited urine test all the way up to fight night.
                This is short-sighted. In order to catch someone using EPO you'd literally have to get them the day of or the day after they use it. It works that quick. This is why blood tests are done in conjunction with the urine because while you can hide it in the urine, tracking a person's RBC and H levels are something they can't make disappear.

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                • BuckToothed
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by fugu
                  So of what use is a 8-week training camp?
                  For fun?
                  Note sure of the "official" length of most training camps, some goes as much as 12 weeks (3 months).

                  Assume it's 8 weeks, 5 of that weeks will have OST, so no juice.
                  3 of that will have no blood testings, but OST-urine testing is still in play.

                  So only PEDs that is not detectable in urine, can be cycled off before fight night and can have significant advantage within a 24 days window.

                  Keep in mind that I'm still using 24 days since this was the official offer, Roach made an unofficial offer of 17 days.

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                  • BuckToothed
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    This is short-sighted. In order to catch someone using EPO you'd literally have to get them the day of or the day after they use it. It works that quick. This is why blood tests are done in conjunction with the urine because while you can hide it in the urine, tracking a person's RBC and H levels are something they can't make disappear.
                    Aren't PBF and PAC going to get random OST-urine testing during this cut-off period for blood testing?
                    Wouldn't it be very difficult, if not impossible, to gain something from this PED while trying to get it out of your system daily in fear of getting caught?

                    As per the article I linked, this new urine test for EPO is a standard test perform for the 2004 Athens Olympics most likely administered by USADA.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      This is short-sighted. In order to catch someone using EPO you'd literally have to get them the day of or the day after they use it. It works that quick. This is why blood tests are done in conjunction with the urine because while you can hide it in the urine, tracking a person's RBC and H levels are something they can't make disappear.
                      We have been though this on this site so many times I didn’t have it in me to explain. What I don’t get is it’s a drug test...they make it seem like Pac will be donating a pint of blood for every test. While I want this fight to happen, I think the blood test also needs to happen...if not Pac will be 4ever tainted idc how his fans try to make it look. Not taking the blood test makes him look like he is hiding something, I hear him saying Mayweather isn’t the commission but still, he will be taking the same test, there is no valid excuse, sorry Pac fans.

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