How come Edwin Valero never tested positive for anything...

[BG_Knocc_Out]

I heard somewhere that because he had real strong ties with his government through his affiliation with Hugo Chavez that they were able to possibly pull a few strings for him.

[AllEyesOpen]

I heard somewhere that because he had real strong ties with his government through his affiliation with Hugo Chavez that they were able to possible pull a few strings for him.

it's ****ed up that depending where you are in the world you can be given slack and still fight for a title. If things are that different depending on where you are there should be 1 governing body taking care of all the testing.

[Mahatma]

if he was supposedly a drug addict his whole life? I was watching his last fight and i couldn't help but wonder. It doesn't really make me feel great about the current testing to be honest.

A lot of his fightes weren't held in America. The majority of his fights were international (with I believe 2 in america), so that's probably why he wasn't caught doing anything. Just a guess. If he has must of the majority of his fights in the U.S....I think he gets caught (IMO).

[ИATAS]

I heard somewhere that because he had real strong ties with his government through his affiliation with Hugo Chavez that they were able to possibly pull a few strings for him.

so you're telling me Chavez was pulling strings while Valero was fighting in Japan, Mexico, Panama, France, Argentina and California?

Come guys, once again lets use some common sense here.

He simply wasn't dirty during his fights. You guys are acting like because he had a drug and drinking problem he was on drugs 100% of his life.

There have been MANY, MANY fighters who have done ******* and party, etc. and could still be clean during training camp and during their fights.

Again, the most likely scenario here is that Valero did drugs throughout his life recreationally and during training camp he was clean, thus being clean for his fights and never testing positive. Obviously the last year of his life spiraled out of control (domestic violence, more pressure, etc.) and his drug use escalated to the point where he was using every day. Again, this doesn't mean he was always like that, obviously.

[Clegg]

He probably used drugs the same way Ricky Hatton eats bad food.

Going crazy when not in training, then being 100% dedicated and disciplined when it came time for training camp.

[jonesy]

He probably used drugs the same way Ricky Hatton eats bad food.

Going crazy when not in training, then being 100% dedicated and disciplined when it came time for training camp.

Sad but true.

[Scott9945]

As far as I know ******* stays in your system for 6 months. If they piss tested him he would have come up positive for sure...but Texas is the only US state he fought in for years and I don't think they test for *******.

No drug stays in your system for six months. The hardest test to pass is for marijuana, and even the heaviest users can pass a test in less than two months.

[AllEyesOpen]

so you're telling me Chavez was pulling strings while Valero was fighting in Japan, Mexico, Panama, France, Argentina and California?

Come guys, once again lets use some common sense here.

He simply wasn't dirty during his fights. You guys are acting like because he had a drug and drinking problem he was on drugs 100% of his life.

There have been MANY, MANY fighters who have done ******* and party, etc. and could still be clean during training camp and during their fights.

Again, the most likely scenario here is that Valero did drugs throughout his life recreationally and during training camp he was clean, thus being clean for his fights and never testing positive. Obviously the last year of his life spiraled out of control (domestic violence, more pressure, etc.) and his drug use escalated to the point where he was using every day. Again, this doesn't mean he was always like that, obviously.

I understand what your saying, but for Valero to have been doing drugs since before the age of 10 years old, I consider that an addict, not a recreational user. Durg addiction isn't something you can turn on or off & clearly he was doing so much drugs that it ****ed up his brain which is why he ended up doing what he did. So based on the fact that he was addicted to drugs for most of his life, i find it very hard to believe that he could just stop for several months during training, not impossible just improbable.

Now taking into account your opinion, how could he have been clean for his last fight in the US if he was already spiraling out of control.

[rskumm21]

Because the current sytem sucks. That's why we need USADA testing across the board.

THERE, I SAID IT!!!

[Njord777]

I wouldn't be surprised if certain countries in Central and South America, Asia, etc. - any of the less economically prosperous countries- didn't bother including much drug testing because, in plain, simple terms; their athletes couldn't afford to be doping. When you fight in the gutter in Mexico City, or some rough neighbourhood slum in Africa, I mean, what are the chances a poor kid turned to combat is able to afford PED's? Or even get them?

So, in some cases praticality problem lead to more lax testing. I can't say that about all the places he fought- like France and Japan- but I know for sure some areas aren't going to test because it'd basically equate to a waste of money..