paul williams rise to the p4p #3 spot, ???????????? i dont see it

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  • mathed
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    #11
    Originally posted by Biolink
    I would have a lot more tolerance for the guy if he fought Middleweights and started calling out Super Middleweights like he's supposed to. He seems more content to call out guys who didn't start out as natural Welter Weights(Yes, yes I know that Paul can make the weight spare me).

    I guess he wants that big pay day, but honestly I haven't been that impressed.
    This is my gripe with him in a nutshell....fight at 160 and 168, leave the smaller guys alone....and get out of the top 5 P4P, you don't belong there

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #12
      Williams is nowhere near being the 3rd best fighter in the world

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        #13
        Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
        paul is supposed to be #3 p4p according to Hbo and hbos sheep

        i will tell you his career in a nutshell

        i havent put williams in my p4p and with another strange win , i will continue to leave his ass out, its like hbo protects williams so williams can become their next american showcase fighter, lol, hes 6 foot 4 or 5 and cant beat martinez properly(maybe lost to sergio according to many people) and cintron(got a split decision sideshow lost in pauls embarassing victory vs journeyman status cintron), then paul loses to quintana(a welweight journeyman with a horrible chin ), the one victory he does have vs margarito was won by paul in the first 6 rounds but marg proceeded to embarass paul in the next 5 of 6 rounds, williams best win vs wright is a win with little validation cause he fought a wright who was fat and didnt box at all anymore, a garbage version of wright

        Last night he looked very impressive, he should be at least P4P #3.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #14
          Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
          paul is supposed to be #3 p4p according to Hbo and hbos sheep

          i will tell you his career in a nutshell

          i havent put williams in my p4p and with another strange win , i will continue to leave his ass out, its like hbo protects williams so williams can become their next american showcase fighter, lol, hes 6 foot 4 or 5 and cant beat martinez properly(maybe lost to sergio according to many people) and cintron(got a split decision sideshow lost in pauls embarassing victory vs journeyman status cintron), then paul loses to quintana(a welweight journeyman with a horrible chin ), the one victory he does have vs margarito was won by paul in the first 6 rounds but marg proceeded to embarass paul in the next 5 of 6 rounds, williams best win vs wright is a win with little validation cause he fought a wright who was fat and didnt box at all anymore, a garbage version of wright
          I dunno about p4p #3, but pwill will outwork floyd. peterson said the gameplan for floyd is easy: you gotta make him fight.

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          • mrgreenfingers
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            #15
            P-Will is an overated sloppy volume puncher, his timing is terrible, even with his incredible reach its just luck if he finds the target through sheer volume. If he wasnt so tall and had legs for arms he would be beaten by anyone with a shred of boxing ability, and even with these things he prob still will be beaten by anyone who can box but at least it gives him a chance.

            P-Will = Overrated

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            • Pullcounter
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              #16
              Originally posted by mrgreenfingers
              P-Will is an overated sloppy volume puncher, his timing is terrible, even with his incredible reach its just luck if he finds the target through sheer volume. If he wasnt so tall and had legs for arms he would be beaten by anyone with a shred of boxing ability, and even with these things he prob still will be beaten by anyone who can box but at least it gives him a chance.

              P-Will = Overrated

              if pwill is so overrated, then why don't floyd fight him? its an easy fight, so go ahead and beat his ass and collect another $15 million.

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              • DLT
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                #17
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I just don't think how somebody could have Williams ahead of Dawson.

                Resume wise and skill wise Dawson is better.

                So Dawson should be ahead of Williams

                But, P4P is all a mythical opinion based ranking anyways so I guess it doesn't matter.
                honestly, its like he doesnt even exist. like no one cares about or respects Dawson which is a ****in sham. people need to give the man his due.

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                • FLY TY
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  honestly, its like he doesnt even exist. like no one cares about or respects Dawson which is a ****in sham. people need to give the man his due.
                  i agree. dawson is that deal.


                  i won't argue anybody for having williams in their p4p lists, but he's not a top 5 guy....

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                  • geribeetus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TYREL
                    i agree. dawson is that deal.


                    i won't argue anybody for having williams in their p4p lists, but he's not a top 5 guy....
                    p4p lists aren't anything to take seriously anyway. the win over martinez was debatable but a win is a win when it gets put on his record. martinez is now the 160 ring champion so that really boosts pwill

                    i agree that pwill isn't top 5, but it's just an opinion in the end

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                    • MOTHER DUCKER
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter

                      if pwill is so overrated, then why don't floyd fight him? its an easy fight, so go ahead and beat his ass and collect another $15 million.
                      Are you honestly so ****ing scared that Floyd will beat Pac you are calling for him to fight a guy who barely had a 100 fans at his fight??

                      The guy shouldn't even be top p4p anyway..

                      His main win was Martinez which was extremely debatable

                      and a win of Margarito in a fight he had ALL the advantages in

                      Williams doesn't do jack **** for anyone's legacy stop pretending it does.. neither Floyd or Pac should face him untill he does something worthwhile..

                      Shane Mosley OBLITERATED margarito at the age of 37!!! not in his prime like PWill.. Paul Williams barely pulled out a win by 1-2 rounds

                      in the first 4 rounds he put 13% of his punches on Cintron.. what is that figure going to look like vs Floyd under 5%?

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