So Mayweather/Mosley failed to exceed Pacquiao/Cotto?

[Reloaded]

2-5,

The numbers that come out early next week will show that May/Moz outsold Pac/Cotto.

careful what you commit to here. You know that i will bring it back up.

and Pac/Cotto did 1.3....not 1.5

Yes and then after they beat their drum over bull**** they slink back into their hole again waiting for the next false harah , they are ***ed in the head .

[illmaticfighter]

Pac-Cotto actually did 1.25 million. I just did a search for it and found Rafael's article on ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4674275

Manny Pacquiao's historic 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto in Las Vegas on Saturday night did big business.

The Top Rank-promoted fight generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue, HBO announced Friday. If historical trends hold, the numbers will increase when all of the buys are officially audited.

The 1.25 million buys, the most for a boxing pay-per-view this year, came from 650,000 from cable homes and 600,000 from satellite services.

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Manny Pacquiao's 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto on Saturday generated 1.25 million buys and $70 million in domestic pay-per-view revenue.
Cotto, who is from Puerto Rico, helped drive the fight at the MGM Grand Garden Arena to an all-time record for buys on the island with 110,000 units sold.

Combined with the approximately 1.05 million buys generated by Floyd Mayweather's dominant decision victory against Juan Manuel Marquez on Sept. 19, it was the first time since 1999 -- when Felix Trinidad claimed a decision against Oscar De La Hoya in a welterweight unification fight and Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield fought to a highly controversial draw for the undisputed heavyweight championship -- that two pay-per-view fights have generated at least 1 million buys in the same calendar year.

It was also the first time that back-to-back pay-per-views have reached seven figures.

With the victory, Pacquiao, who won his first world title in the 112-pound flyweight division, became the first fighter in history to win titles in seven divisions when he claimed Cotto's 147-pound welterweight title. HBO will replay the bout Saturday night (10 ET/PT).

The victories by Pacquiao and Mayweather set the stage for what likely will be the biggest money fight ever.

"They have to deliver," HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg told The Associated Press. "The American public wants that fight."

Their representatives are planning to open negotiations in the coming days for a showdown that would likely take place in the spring.

"The two best pound-for-pound fighters in the world in the same weight class in the prime of their careers," Greenburg said. "It just doesn't get any better than that."

Promoter Bob Arum agreed.

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The way I look at it now, boxing is really on a roll. We would be idiots now to slow the momentum and the only way we can keep the momentum is to make this fight.
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-- Promotor Bob Arum, on a possible Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather bout
"The way I look at it now, boxing is really on a roll," Arum said. "We would be idiots now to slow the momentum and the only way we can keep the momentum is to make this fight."

Arum, who represents Pacquiao, was expected to begin talks as early as next week with Richard Schaefer, who heads Golden Boy Promotions and will represent Mayweather in the negotiations.

Though each fighter believes he should get a bigger percentage of the purse, the total revenues will be so high that a 50-50 split may not be all that difficult to achieve.

Arum said Pacquiao will end up making some $22 million for his 12th-round stoppage of Cotto, while Cotto will end up with around $12 million. That is far higher than either fighter was guaranteed because, as is the case with most big fights, they worked for a percentage of the total sales.

It was the third consecutive blockbuster pay-per-view fight for Pacquiao, who also drew 1.25 million buys for his eighth-round destruction of De La Hoya in December 2008 and approximately 830,000 buys for his second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton to win the junior welterweight championship in May.

Pacquiao-Cotto also generated a live gate of $8,847,550 from an official crowd of 15,930, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission. That makes it the 14th-biggest gate in Nevada history.


Rafael: HBO's Man With A Mission

It's every fan's dream bout: a megafight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. HBO Sports' Ross Greenburg is determined to make it happen, Dan Rafael writes. Story

The potential of a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is so big that Arum said casino magnate Steve Wynn had already spoken to him about constructing a 30,000-seat outdoor arena on what is now a vacant lot across from his two resorts to host the bout, with other casinos joining in as partners.

Outdoor arenas were a staple of the big fights in Las Vegas in the 1980s, beginning with the Muhammad Ali-Larry Holmes fight at Caesars Palace.

"A lot of people are interested," Arum said. "The problem with having it in the East, though, is that the taxes are so big that the fighters would have to give up millions in extra taxes."

Greenburg credited the recent strong sales to a new willingness by promoters to match their best fighters, and to the new -- and younger -- fans drawn to the sport by the success of the network's "24/7" reality shows in the weeks before the fights.

There would be no lack of material for a Pacquiao-Mayweather show, which would match a Filipino hero with a colorful cast surrounding him against a fighter with a ***********al family who has played the role of villain in his biggest fights.

"There's just so much drama and subplots for this," Greenburg said.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for

[Devils Advocate]

I normally get annoyed by talking about PPV #s, but you are right. HBO needs to start investing into the future. Off topic and on topic kind of both. Bradley is ducking Alexander right now because the fight isn't supposedly big enough. Well, why not have them headline a card together with some B-level opponents if HBO isn't gonna try to make a tournament like was talked about?

Thats right make it big, a 24/7 with Bradley and Alexander would be cool, b/c they are classy guys that train hard and HBO can demand that they get sparring sessions unlike Mayweather n Oscar. Investing in their future is the right thing to do, what also couldn't hurt is stacking a PPV. Im tired of basically paying for the main event, what they should do is get other champions at the same weight class defend against a mandatory so everyone can at least think about the possiblity of a potential match up. After Saul Alvarez finished, I thought man Mayweather would ruin this guys career anytime in the next 2 years. Just some thoughts

[street bully]

So how much did the fight bring in PPV numbers.

[dc3383]

Pac-Cotto actually did 1.25 million. I just did a search for it and found Rafael's article on ESPN.

Exactly they only did 1.2 mil; and the final #'s for Floyd/shane aren't even out yet so why are people reaching.

[Scott9945]

Im lost when were the final numbers released?

Supposedly early next week.

[Reloaded]

Exactly they only did 1.2 mil; and the final #'s for Floyd/shane aren't even out yet so why are people reaching.

Because they never get a real win against Floyd so they run with bull**** and rumor whenever they can like a cheap thrill , the poor boys are frustrated at losing all the time .

[Jack_DempseyCSC]

when the numbers are officially released i still expect them to be higher than pacquiao/cotto

[jayblack]

Thats sucks. Floyd is supposed to be the biggest draw. Mosley has had NUMEROUS PPV outings. I mean, this fight was promoted as the biggest fight the last couple of years. It was promoted as the biggest fight of the decade. A super SUPER fight. Schaefer said that this fight was the most heavily promoted fight in the history of Golden Boy. They were utilizing avenues which never had been used before to sell the fight. Not only that, Mosley and May are American fighters. 1.2 Millions is still great for boxing, but I have to admit. It does kind of worry me a little because this fight should have done much more than that. How many buys would it have done is Mosley never would have stepped into that ring to confront Floyd?

You can try to compare those numbers to Pac/Clottey, but lets be real. That fight didn't even have a 24/7. Only had 2 months of half ass promotion. Clottey doesn't even have a fan base. Yet it still managed to do 700K. If a comparison is going to be done, it has to be to Pac/Cotto. 1.5 million PPV buys. Pac/Cotto did 1.5 millions buys even though:

Floyd said Cotto was not a PPV attraction
The 24/7 was "boring"
2 non American fighters

After Mayweather/Pacquiao, we will not have any superfights for a very long time. Its going to be a very unsure time for Boxing. HBO needs to carefully use its budget to promote new fighters.

According to this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao the Pac vs Cotto did 1.25.

[Bushidō]

I think most people see Cotto as a pretty exciting fighter. Like him or not.