So Mayweather/Mosley failed to exceed Pacquiao/Cotto?

**Iceta Lives** · 05-08-2010, 02:46 PM

I normally get annoyed by talking about PPV #s, but you are right. HBO needs to start investing into the future. Off topic and on topic kind of both. Bradley is ducking Alexander right now because the fight isn't supposedly big enough. Well, why not have them headline a card together with some B-level opponents if HBO isn't gonna try to make a tournament like was talked about?

**Khalid X** · 05-08-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by 2501

Thats sucks. Floyd is supposed to be the biggest draw. Mosley has had NUMEROUS PPV outings. I mean, this fight was promoted as the biggest fight the last couple of years. It was promoted as the biggest fight of the decade. A super SUPER fight. Schaefer said that this fight was the most heavily promoted fight in the history of Golden Boy. They were utilizing avenues which never had been used before to sell the fight. Not only that, Mosley and May are American fighters. 1.2 Millions is still great for boxing, but I have to admit. It does kind of worry me a little because this fight should have done much more than that. How many buys would it have done is Mosley never would have stepped into that ring to confront Floyd?

You can try to compare those numbers to Pac/Clottey, but lets be real. That fight didn't even have a 24/7. Only had 2 months of half ass promotion. Clottey doesn't even have a fan base. Yet it still managed to do 700K. If a comparison is going to be done, it has to be to Pac/Cotto. 1.5 million PPV buys. Pac/Cotto did 1.5 millions buys even though:

Floyd said Cotto was not a PPV attraction
The 24/7 was "boring"
2 non American fighters

After Mayweather/Pacquiao, we will not have any superfights for a very long time. Its going to be a very unsure time for Boxing. HBO needs to carefully use its budget to promote new fighters.

I co-sign everything mentioned.

Also you can't compare Floyd vs Shane to Pac vs Clottey because b4 Clottey was gonna fight Pac, he was schedule to fight Rosales in January on Foxsports net not ESPN, showtime, top rank ppv, or even an HBO boxing after dark undercard bout but foxsports net.

Both Mosley and Cotto are HBO WCB headliners, and not PPV draws, so the comparison needs to be between Pac vs Cotto and Pac vs Mosley.

**thiefery** · 05-08-2010, 02:49 PM

HBO is probably still bankng on Berto and Ortiz to be the next superstars.. lol!

**immortal tech** · 05-08-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by 2501

Thats sucks. Floyd is supposed to be the biggest draw. Mosley has had NUMEROUS PPV outings. I mean, this fight was promoted as the biggest fight the last couple of years. It was promoted as the biggest fight of the decade. A super SUPER fight. Schaefer said that this fight was the most heavily promoted fight in the history of Golden Boy. They were utilizing avenues which never had been used before to sell the fight. Not only that, Mosley and May are American fighters. 1.2 Millions is still great for boxing, but I have to admit. It does kind of worry me a little because this fight should have done much more than that. How many buys would it have done is Mosley never would have stepped into that ring to confront Floyd?

You can try to compare those numbers to Pac/Clottey, but lets be real. That fight didn't even have a 24/7. Only had 2 months of half ass promotion. Clottey doesn't even have a fan base. Yet it still managed to do 700K. If a comparison is going to be done, it has to be to Pac/Cotto. 1.5 million PPV buys. Pac/Cotto did 1.5 millions buys even though:

Floyd said Cotto was not a PPV attraction
The 24/7 was "boring"
2 non American fighters

After Mayweather/Pacquiao, we will not have any superfights for a very long time. Its going to be a very unsure time for Boxing. HBO needs to carefully use its budget to promote new fighters.

you don't know how the fight did so far the numbers is between 1.1 to 1.7 million so it either just got outdone by .1 million or its the second highest PPV fight of all time
and prove that pac Cotto did 1.5

**2501** · 05-08-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Iceta Lives

I normally get annoyed by talking about PPV #s, but you are right. HBO needs to start investing into the future. Off topic and on topic kind of both. Bradley is ducking Alexander right now because the fight isn't supposedly big enough. Well, why not have them headline a card together with some B-level opponents if HBO isn't gonna try to make a tournament like was talked about?

They need to stop wasting so much money on fighters who aren't bonafide draws yet like they did on Berto. Promoters also need to look into publicist or new marketing strategies to get these boxers out there to the general public. When a promotional company is just thinking PPV, they are not looking at the bigger long term picture. It almost feels like these guys are trying to cash out as much as possible before the sport finally goes under water.

And yeah, Bradley is def ducking Alexander. Never thought Id say that. There really isn't anyone of worth for him to fight. And its not like an L for either them would really hurt their career because they are still not huge stars.

**BlackHat** · 05-08-2010, 02:52 PM

I know someone is upset

**Dick Buffman** · 05-08-2010, 02:52 PM

If they say this fight did anything more than 1.1 they're liars.

This was a B level fight from the start.

**Kevin Malone** · 05-08-2010, 02:53 PM

The sport isn't going under water.

That keeps getting repeated year after year after year. It's getting pretty old at this point.

I remember years ago when I couldn't care less about boxing and I heard it. Now I'm a huge fan of it and I still hear it.

**HARLEM AL** · 05-08-2010, 02:55 PM

God I can't wait to floyd f#ck manny up. You b1tchazz *****s is getting ridicules.

So Mayweather/Mosley failed to exceed Pacquiao/Cotto?