Do you think the Cotto that fought Pacquiao was better than Mosley that fought Floyd?

[krispy kreme]

I think so....

[Cash Cow]

I honestly think they're about even. I wouldn't argue with whoever you want to put ahead.

Mosley was ranked #3 P4P and was ranked the #1WW in the division that the P4P #1 at the time Manny was in

that says it all

[Iceta Lives]

If Cotto fought Floyd today he'd go into survival mode just like Mosley did after the midway point of the fight. Cotto's stamina is even worse than Mosley's. He might be a little more competitive with Floyd because he has a better jab than Mosley. But even so, he's a one handed fighter who can't be effective with his right hand. If you've only got one punch in your arsenal like Cotto does (In his case the left hook) how do you expect to beat Floyd?

[MOTHER DUCKER]

If Cotto fought Floyd today he'd go into survival mode just like Mosley did after the midway point of the fight. Cotto's stamina is even worse than Mosley's. He might be a little more competitive with Floyd because he has a better jab than Mosley. But even so, he's a one handed fighter who can't be effective with his right hand. If you've only got one punch in your arsenal like Cotto does (In his case the left hook) how do you expect to beat Floyd?

I could see Floyd walking him down and forcing a stoppage

[FLY TY]

Ok but then by that analogy Pacquiao dominated Cotto. Cotto beat Mosley. Mosley beat Margarito. So what does that say? It says nothing.

Pacman destroyed Hatton in 2, it took PBF 10 or so. Buster Douglas beat Tyson. Haseem Rahman layed out Lennox. We can argue all day. The truth is anything can happen at any given time. Anybody can get laid out at any given time. Look at the Super Six Tournament.

The truth is Mosley looked washed up. He even said he was tired in the post fight interview. Larry Merchant even told him how could he be tired after 2, he's been doing this for 17 years.

Most everybody thought Mosley would be competitive. Truth was he wasn't. However lets not forget he hasn't fought in over a year and he's 38. Time catches up to everybody and it caught up to Mosley. Just like it caught up to RJJ.

I'm not discrediting PBF. He was a great fighter before, and he is an even greater fighter now. Based on what I saw Mosley would have to be 5 years younger to give PBF a run. That 2nd Round was like PBF said part of the sport. He took Mosleys best hit, adjusted and "****ed Him Up" like he said he would lol.

i'll never use the TRUANGLE THEORY in any argument, b/c as we've seen, it doesn't work....so idk what "analogy" you're referring to.

i didn't hear mosley or merchant use the "tired" excuse, but you could be right.

i'm not understanding your argument tho. rjj put on like 20 lbs. of muscle, then had to lose it, so i don't think roy got "old" overnight, surely the physiological effects of the weight gain/loss played a part.

i guess my argument is, "who has ever looked good against floyd, for an extended period of time?"

larry merchant, who's as critical of floyd as anybody, finally stated towards the end of the fight, that forget size, at some point it becomes apparent floyd is more skilled than anybody he faces. sure we can nitpick all day, and say this guy was small, this guy's been beaten before, this guy was old, but at some point you have to realize that WHOEVER floyd can possibly face, an excuse can be made as to why he beat them.

i know paulie malinaggi gets a lot of hate on this site, but i tend to look at his comments about the fight, along with merchant, steward, mannix, and many other ppl.......shane wasn't an old/shot fighter, floyd just had an answer for anything he could do. he neutralized shane, made him ineffective. like you said, he took his best shots in round 2, shook them off, and whooped his ass like he said he would.

i guess the only way floyd will get credit, is if shane fights again, and beats somebody's ass.

[Ivansmamma]

so we're in agreement that there was just a gap in talent?

Yeah Floyd was just too fast and too skilled.

[FLY TY]

If Cotto fought Floyd today he'd go into survival mode just like Mosley did after the midway point of the fight. Cotto's stamina is even worse than Mosley's. He might be a little more competitive with Floyd because he has a better jab than Mosley. But even so, he's a one handed fighter who can't be effective with his right hand. If you've only got one punch in your arsenal like Cotto does (In his case the left hook) how do you expect to beat Floyd?

exactly...cotto goes into survival mode, everytime he's hurt, or up against it.

that's why i was so disappointed in clottey, for letting cotto "outwork" him to a victory.


but we now see what clottey is made of at this point.....

[jrosales13]

Mosley was ranked #3 P4P and was ranked the #1WW in the division that the P4P #1 at the time Manny was in

that says it all

By who's rankings? Yours?

It was about even man.

You guys can say that Shane looked like crap cuz Floyd made him look like crap. And, I can agree with that.

But, why don't you guys mention that Cotto look like crap because Pac made him look that way?

I would love to see Cotto and Shane fight.

Just make sure in the contract it says that Cotto has to come in at 145 and Shane has to take OST. And, lets see who really is better.

[STRUGG]

yes i do...................Cotto wasnt dominated..........after the 5th round...............

[And Still]

Cotto looked better and was still boxing in the late rounds.

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How would Cotto have looked in the late rounds if Manny was attacking him the way that Floyd was still coming after Shane? Honestly.

Manny was standing in the middle of the ring as if to say "come on, let's fight". Floyd didn't do that. He went to Shane.