Simple Question What's The Proof Pac is on Roids?

**Manuel6** · 05-07-2010, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Fish_Scotland

(I'll probably get accused of being a ******* by a minority of idiotic posters)

If you question a boxer that has had clean tests his entire career of being on roids because another boxer is trying to implement his own testing schedule you must surely have to think that every other boxer that has not followed Floyds testing system is questionable???

Oh wait, that would mean the only clean boxers for certain are Floyd and erm Mosley. Slightly ironic given Mosleys past.

I can understand why people question why Pac won't do it and I have too, I've really fought hard about it and considered all sides of the arguement.

If what Floyd is requesting was put into the perspective of any other sport, it would be deemed outragous. Okay boxing doesn't have a central governing body which contributes a long way to shambles like this but it's not for Floyd to decide.

Morally I completly agree with Pacmans stance on this. Who does Floyd think he is to suggest whatever the commission puts in place in terms of testing in inadequate. Surely if what he(Floyd) is trying to implement had any serious foundation then he surely must be aware of something or some drug that is getting past the usual testing process? If he was serious about cleaning up the sport why hasn't he had serious discussion with the powers that be and given evidence of where their testing system fails? If he was serious about this why did this testing only come to light at the 12 hour of negotiations in his career defining fight? (Could it be that he's got his father back in the corner?)

You only have to watch and listen to Floyds own words in the 24/7 to know(from his own mouth) that he is not in anyway serious about cleaning up the sport. E1 While ripping into Mosley he say he's fighting to secure his legacy and too clean up the sport. By E3 it had changed to 'I fight for money'.

So to sum up.

Lets not believe Floyd is trying to clean up the sport, he's not. That would suggest he was trying to improve the sport, he's not. (not out of the ring anyway).

He is simply undermining Pacmans reputation and more over the sport itself with these accusations. If he had any evidence he'd had come forward with it. (I don't buy into 'take the tests' floyd is governing body, in what other sport do players decide the rules?)

There is probably no reason other than moral reasons Pacman won't do the tests (see we'll always question pac now due to accusations with no foundation)

I'd bet that Floyd Snr who for weeks leading up to pacman negotiations was trying to suggest pacman was on drugs is the sole and only reason the whole issue was brought up. Again rather ironic giving he was in jail from 92-98 on..........drum roll.............. drug trafficking.

I don't think the Mayweathers (collectively) can take the moral high ground with any other other boxer and I'm surprised so many of you have been taken in with the suggestions that ultimately came from a CONVICTED drug trafficker.

I see this is the horse that doesn't die. Anyway, having clean tests your entire life is not conclusive proof that you are not on anything. The olympics are full of drug cheaters, but only a percentage get caught. And nobody really believe that only they are the cheaters. It's quiet naive to believe so. There does not exist conclusive evidence that Pacquiao is on something, and because that is the case he deserves to be believed. However, that does not mean that the su****ion is meritless. What he has accomplished is very rare. The way he has gone up in weight is suspect. His performances against guys that out weighed him at one time by 20 pounds leaves one scratching his head. And last, but not least, his refusal to fully participate in drug testing creates an even bigger cloud of su****ion.

Also, let's not forget that Mayweather is not making the rules for anybody. He's making the rules for himself. I don't think Mayweather really gives a **** if anybody else does OSDT; however, Money Mayweather decided that he's not going to fight Pacquiao without OSDT in place. This is part of two individuals negotiating a contract. If Pacquiao doesn't like, he can walk away- like he did. People act like this fight has to be made. It doesn't. There are plenty of boxers out there that will fight Pacquiao, without the tests, for a paycheck...and they call Mayweather the money-hungry-*******...funny!

**The Big Dunn** · 05-07-2010, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Statyk

Question is for Floyd: "is someone really that good that the only way to achieve it is thru steroids?"

In the history of this sport no fighter, not even great ones like Robinson, Duran, Leonard, got quicker and more powerful as they got older and heavier. I'm giving manny the benefit of the doubt because he has never tested psoitive. I'm not saying its impossible, but it hasn't ever happened.

**AssasinKing** · 05-07-2010, 08:40 AM