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  • GeorgiaRED
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    #11
    Ortiz by KO. I'm pretty sure.

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    • lfc19titles
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      #12
      khan has already stopped ortiz twice in the amateurs, this will be a third time coming. ortiz is vastly over rated

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      • -Lowkey-
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        #13
        Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
        Believe me when I tell you the amateurs mean nothing compared to the pro's. Fighters change, grow and mature and get better.
        Originally posted by David_TheMan
        Pro game is different from amateurs, especially the amateurs that Khan and Ortiz came up in..
        considering khan has already beat Ortiz in the amateurs the case is not closed I know the pros is a whole different concept but its more of a barometer to go by than ’Ortiz can take a punch’

        maybe you guys should acquire a new set of reading glasses? like i said no chin vs no heart both have alot to prove

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          #14
          Originally posted by LightsOutLewis
          considering khan has already beat Ortiz in the amateurs the case is not closed I know the pros is a whole different concept but its more of a barometer to go by than ’Ortiz can take a punch’

          maybe you guys should acquire a new set of reading glasses? like i said no chin vs no heart both have alot to prove
          If you would have taken the time to read the rest of my post then you would understand where I was going with that. You made a blanket statement that read;

          "No heart vs no chin"

          I just think that's unfair considering we haven't seen the way these two young fighters will bounce back from a defeat like they suffered.

          I think Khan has been brought back more slowly and Ortiz is jumping right back in with a dangerous and crafty vet like Campbell.

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            #15
            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
            If you would have taken the time to read the rest of my post then you would understand where I was going with that. You made a blanket statement that read;

            "No heart vs no chin"

            I just think that's unfair considering we haven't seen the way these two young fighters will bounce back from a defeat like they suffered.

            I think Khan has been brought back more slowly and Ortiz is jumping right back in with a dangerous and crafty vet like Campbell.
            ok and i agree with that post they are both young and neither have hit there peak yet time is on there side. They both have question marks over there head and golden boy seem to want to give khan the easier path of the two

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            • David_TheMan
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              #16
              Originally posted by LightsOutLewis
              ok and i agree with that post they are both young and neither have hit there peak yet time is on there side. They both have question marks over there head and golden boy seem to want to give khan the easier path of the two
              Well I have no respect for your assertion. Amatuers have no barometer or bearing on a pro-fight. They are so different now, that they are practically different sports. Khan is sadly on a level below Ortiz based on the opposition they fight. Khan may have quit against Maidana, but atleast he fought him, instead of ducking and running away to fight Paulie.

              Amir Khan doesn't have the chin to fight professionally, especially at the world level, maybe he can go back to the UK and dominate their local scene.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by Alec900
                two junior Golden Boys.one with questionable chin,the other with questionable heart.who you got and why?poll coming
                khan stopped ortiz in the amatuers

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                • Siggy
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  khan stopped ortiz in the amatuers
                  headgear and a barrage of punches.
                  the pro game is a different game. remember khan earlier in his career? he fought like he did as an amateur. he was an aggressive, straight line, in and out swarmer.
                  he cant fight like that anymore becuz he has no chin, whereas ortiz can continue on his transition into becoming a power boxer.
                  ortiz catches up to a running khan and KHTFO.

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                  • sunny31
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Siggy
                    headgear and a barrage of punches.
                    the pro game is a different game. remember khan earlier in his career? he fought like he did as an amateur. he was an aggressive, straight line, in and out swarmer.
                    he cant fight like that anymore becuz he has no chin, whereas ortiz can continue on his transition into becoming a power boxer.
                    ortiz catches up to a running khan and KHTFO.
                    It wasn't a barrage of punches from what I have been told it was a clean stoppage, as in ortiz went down and couldn't get back up (ko rather than tko in pros) and it was in the first round...nonetheless I think it is different now but still the same outcome, ortiz is a good fighter and he always has a punchers chance cos the kid can crack, but I think he is in over his head against khan, people will only realise the gulf in class and speed when they are in the ring together. I don't think khan makes nearly as many mistakes as he did a couple of years ago, and even 1 year ago, and that is the only chance ortiz has, capitalising on mistakes, if ortiz was tough as nails and had a great chin I would give him more of a chance but he lacks in both areas at the highest level.

                    Mid round stoppage for khan

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by David_TheMan
                      Well I have no respect for your assertion. Amatuers have no barometer or bearing on a pro-fight. They are so different now, that they are practically different sports. Khan is sadly on a level below Ortiz based on the opposition they fight. Khan may have quit against Maidana, but atleast he fought him, instead of ducking and running away to fight Paulie.

                      Amir Khan doesn't have the chin to fight professionally, especially at the world level, maybe he can go back to the UK and dominate their local scene.
                      I didn’t ask for or require your respect. Its unfair for you to trash Khan’s chin and not mention Ortiz’s heart the fact is khan got knocked out by a guy with a big punch he tried to get up he tried to carry on fighting but his below average chin prevented him to do so

                      Ortiz quit because the going got tough he could dish out a beating but he couldn’t take one it was a boy fighting a man

                      And like I said I know the armatures are totally different to the pros but the FACT is they did fight and Khan won everything you are saying is your opinion not FACT

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