Amir Khan vs Victor Ortiz

[Siggy]

It wasn't a barrage of punches from what I have been told it was a clean stoppage, as in ortiz went down and couldn't get back up (ko rather than tko in pros) and it was in the first round...nonetheless I think it is different now but still the same outcome, ortiz is a good fighter and he always has a punchers chance cos the kid can crack, but I think he is in over his head against khan, people will only realise the gulf in class and speed when they are in the ring together. I don't think khan makes nearly as many mistakes as he did a couple of years ago, and even 1 year ago, and that is the only chance ortiz has, capitalising on mistakes, if ortiz was tough as nails and had a great chin I would give him more of a chance but he lacks in both areas at the highest level.

Mid round stoppage for khan

from what you have been told...
video footage? link?
the fact is that it's easier to be aggressive, even if you're chinny, if you have headgear on.

khan makes less mistakes becuz he takes less risks. roach has him on his bike to protect him from exchanges. that'll be his style when he gets in the ring with a power puncher. he will be a boring "runner."
the difference is that he is not a good enough instinctual boxer to box mistake-free for 12.
considering that he is a tense, spastic fighter, i do not think he would be able to keep up the pace of the movement necessary to be a moving boxer over 12.

[amonb]

from what you have been told...
video footage? link?
the fact is that it's easier to be aggressive, even if you're chinny, if you have headgear on.

khan makes less mistakes becuz he takes less risks. roach has him on his bike to protect him from exchanges. that'll be his style when he gets in the ring with a power puncher. he will be a boring "runner."
the difference is that he is not a good enough instinctual boxer to box mistake-free for 12.
considering that he is a tense, spastic fighter, i do not think he would be able to keep up the pace of the movement necessary to be a moving boxer over 12.

He looked like a runner in his last fight!!!!

[Siggy]

He looked like a runner in his last fight!!!!

yeah against the amazing POWER PUNCHING threat that was dmitriy salita.

[amonb]

yeah against the amazing POWER PUNCHING threat that was dmitriy salita.

He knocked him down with his first combo. What the **** has salita's punch gotta do with anything????

[Siggy]

He knocked him down with his first combo. What the **** has salita's punch gotta do with anything????

salita was NO THREAT.
that sht aint gonna happen when khan steps in the ring with a live body who can punch.

even in the kotelnik fight we saw glimpses of his new style. khan will be a runner vs power punchers. he aint pulling no pacquiao style with that chin.
roach knows it.

[amonb]

salita was NO THREAT.
that sht aint gonna happen when khan steps in the ring with a live body who can punch.

Mate, they're all getting taken out. Gimme a prediction for the 15th????

[Siggy]

Mate, they're all getting taken out. Gimme a prediction for the 15th????

khan via close UD, but once amir steps in the ring again with a power puncher i'll be there to say i told you so. khan will transform into yuri foreman.

[tito_bandito]

Ortiz has accurate punching power and hardly ever misses a punch...Khan has speed and ok power with reach...Ortiz has always proven to handle tall lanky fighters like khan by working on the inside amd landing his right cross...if Ortiz proves against Campbell that he's the same or a better fighter than before the maidana fight then I got Ortiz beating Khan by KO/TKO in round 7...Khan can't spark out Ortiz...

[amonb]

khan via close UD, but once amir steps in the ring again with a power puncher i'll be there to say i told you so. khan will transform into yuri foreman.

I'll be here too and i expect an apology from ya when he beats maidana and timmy!!!!

[sunny31]

from what you have been told...
video footage? link?
the fact is that it's easier to be aggressive, even if you're chinny, if you have headgear on.

khan makes less mistakes becuz he takes less risks. roach has him on his bike to protect him from exchanges. that'll be his style when he gets in the ring with a power puncher. he will be a boring "runner."
the difference is that he is not a good enough instinctual boxer to box mistake-free for 12.
considering that he is a tense, spastic fighter, i do not think he would be able to keep up the pace of the movement necessary to be a moving boxer over 12.

No video footage, khan said himself in an interview which can be found on here, I think it was 1st or 2nd round, anyway I used to box on the amateur circuit here in the UK and that was the word, ortiz had to take a couple of counts in the 1st so sounded pretty one-sided.

I don't think he is that much less aggressive, he may not exchange as much but that is just smart especially if your faster than all your opponents, he just makes less technical defensive mistakes, his hands are higher, he brings them back up to where they should be after combinations, his right hand is higher when he throws his left hook. Just to name a few, but all-round he is much better, even offensively, physically also. Let me tell you something, on boxer goes through fights without making mistakes its impossible, im not sure we are even watching the same figher? He isn't a tense fighter, he is actually pretty relaxed as far as fighters go.

He will not have to box and move against ortiz for 12 rounds you are considerably underestimating khan's power, kotelnik has an iron chin and a great defence, amir had the right tactics against him, hell maidana couldn't take the middle of the ring against kotelnik, plus ortiz has been gun shy since he lost, and once he feels amir's power trust me he will be again. Amir will box and move early, by the 4th or 5th round he will have the middle of the ring and will be hurting ortiz bad, ortiz isn't a great fighter at long range anyway, but against khan, with those height and reach advantages, forget about it. Ortiz is only chance is a ko in the first 2 or 3 rounds, but amir's jab, speed, power will dismantle ortiz if he can't get amir out of there early.

I guess we'l see if the fight happens, I think if they both win their respective fights they will probably fight next, but im not convinced ortiz will beat nate campbell, he doesn't look the same fighter to me (pre-maidana)