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WHY DADDY MAYWEATHER AND BABYSON ONLY TALK??? IF BABY
MAYWEATHER JR. IS THAT GOOD??? BABY
MAYWEATHER WILL DO ALL HIS TALKING IN THE RING
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Originally posted by yevskiy426 View PostYea but Pac will not heed to a demand by Floyd, they will have to compromise on almost very part of the contract. THe fact that Floyd DEMANDS the testing shows Pac wont be pushed around....he is the champ and will have it his way
then floyd is a champ as well so no 10 mill penalty for overweight... lets not even negociate cause he shouldnt be bullied around by manny and we dont make no fight... you have to be honest and look at the overall situation mate.. if both camps really want to fight they both have to compromise. that is what negociating is all about, and like it or not but so far only 1 camp has made concessions
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Originally posted by Sugar Q View PostThis fight is about real principle. You don't go into a 100 million dollar match against an opponent that's cheating. You make sure there's a level playing field first then you fight. I agree with Sr. Floyd can beat Manny without the testing but why allow him to cheat. Anyone remotely involved in boxing knows that the Nevada commission is damn near useless which is clearly why Team Pac depends on their ignorant ass fans to back his nonsense. They know the intelligent fans either already know or are capable of researching to find the truth. The difference is a decision vs. a KO within 8 rounds because Manny tested gets stopped within 8 rounds.
as for a major difference in outcome whether or not pac is on something is bogus IMO... i think its completely absurd to assume PED/steroids is SOLELY the reason for his success... the man trains just as hard as floyd... they are BOTH 15 round fighters.
vargas & toney didnt reach ELITE status with steroids... mosley almost lost to oscar on steroids... so i dont understand how people assume that without steroids, pac would be some sort of chump.... steroids/PEDs is used to assist with a great training regimen... i dont condone it, but lets not act like its some magical substance that turns an average fighter into a GREAT fighter.... with or without substances, i see it an even match... floyd could win if he can exploit pac's lack of defense against a solid jab... and pac can win by outworking floyd...
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Originally posted by Fer14 View Postok but there is the other side of the coin...
then floyd is a champ as well so no 10 mill penalty for overweight... lets not even negociate cause he shouldnt be bullied around by manny and we dont make no fight... you have to be honest and look at the overall situation mate.. if both camps really want to fight they both have to compromise. that is what negociating is all about, and like it or not but so far only 1 camp has made concessions
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Originally posted by one-Punch View PostThis is a prime example of a ***** right here. This guy has it in his head that Pacquiao is cheating with absolutely no proof.
It's simple dude. Take the test. *******s are brainwashed into thinking it's cool to be superstitious or use lame excuses to avoid testing but that aint gonna work with this. No silly bravado here this is business.
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Originally posted by waxfondler View Postim not a PED or steroid expert, so im speaking from what ive read.... but steroids would aid in strength/mass/longer training sessions... also, aids in recovery time... but this supposed "power" manny has is overhyped... all of his recent KOs could be from SPEED not necessarily POWER... even the mayweathers can vouch that a fast/unseen punch will KO anybody.
as for a major difference in outcome whether or not pac is on something is bogus IMO... i think its completely absurd to assume PED/steroids is SOLELY the reason for his success... the man trains just as hard as floyd... they are BOTH 15 round fighters.
vargas & toney didnt reach ELITE status with steroids... mosley almost lost to oscar on steroids... so i dont understand how people assume that without steroids, pac would be some sort of chump.... steroids/PEDs is used to assist with a great training regimen... i dont condone it, but lets not act like its some magical substance that turns an average fighter into a GREAT fighter.... with or without substances, i see it an even match... floyd could win if he can exploit pac's lack of defense against a solid jab... and pac can win by outworking floyd...
I have been in and around the ring and have spoken to people that are experienced in the field of PEDs. The bottom line is if PEDs didn't give a fighter a MAJOR edge they wouldn't be illegal. Any time something increases you strength it in turn increases your power, speed, recovery time and endurance which says it all. Maybe you can see it but I can't see a Manny (like the 130 Manny) KOing Cotto. Again a 50% KO ratio at 130 and a 85/90% ratio @147? Believe what you'd like if it amuses you but it's not a coincidence that this is the first time in boxing history that this has happened.
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All i have to say is this..floyd fought baldomir for 12mill & the WW belt @ that time. We know floyd would beat margarito any day. The thing is Margarito is dirty so im glad he didnt fight margarito. I feel bad for cotto who was on top of his game & got cheated by plasters, then built his career back up and got cheated again by pacroids...If anyone should be pushing for manny to take the test is cotto...I feel that if manny is dirty he should be stripped of his titles. Do i agree with the new testing? Yes..I think all sports should have it including ufc. I'm not on a money wagon but whats right is whats right. These fighters are cheating and destroying our sports that we love. Look at cotto...he'll never be the same due to some illegal ****!
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Originally posted by start11 View PostThe thing is floyd jr had been proven to cheat on weight and on the other hand, mayweather's camp started the rumors without any proof against pac. With the right mind it is really very easy to grasp that a damn drug testing is a mental advantage. If ever the fight won't happen i will blame everything to floyd snr for accusing a person without any evidence. He is the one to be blame not floyd nor pacquiao.
But you'll completely overlook the ONLY fighter in boxing unwilling to submit to random testing?
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Originally posted by Chuckylee View PostAll i have to say is this..floyd fought baldomir for 12mill & the WW belt @ that time. We know floyd would beat margarito any day. The thing is Margarito is dirty so im glad he didnt fight margarito. I feel bad for cotto who was on top of his game & got cheated by plasters, then built his career back up and got cheated again by pacroids...If anyone should be pushing for manny to take the test is cotto...I feel that if manny is dirty he should be stripped of his titles. Do i agree with the new testing? Yes..I think all sports should have it including ufc. I'm not on a money wagon but whats right is whats right. These fighters are cheating and destroying our sports that we love. Look at cotto...he'll never be the same due to some illegal ****!
Very true but unfortunately Cotto is part of the major player behind all this. "TOP RANK". A writer said it should be a requirement when a fighter applies for a license that every fighter has to submit to random testing and definitely required before entering into a championship fight.
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