Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  • FinitoxDinamita
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    #201
    Originally posted by moneytheman

    Floyd would destroy him 1st round the first early matches i seen with floyd fighting way more advanced people showed this

    This is from earlier this week watching on my laptop and srr side by side and a man named Clemente from 1978s vs danny is 125 and is moving way more fluid and way more advanced he is using feints on top of able to combo faster on top of using lateral movement

    how about carlos a middleweight as ray was using lateral movement smoothly able to pick off shots from range smoothly and duck and counter smoothly

    Srr looks sloopy stiff making mutiple mistakes im watchin him now vs joe he looks nothing like these guys so tell me what i need to research anything at when im watching and saying exactly what i see and dont
    ray and this era looks to be very over extending alot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements

    they dont fight from range much,they leave themselves open alot
    alot of times will just throw to the body and not protect themselves the carlos era was able to protect to body with 1 hand while punching to the body

    they use mostly counters when up close,the lateral movement is very basic they dont seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly they have to stop then punch most the time and their feet are mostly tiptoeing instead of carlos era where its like their a quarterback ready to throw the ball

    these wasnt big name guys but they clearly as are way more advanced then rays era on top of being more fluid and made less mistakes
    People make him out to be invincible but I just think H2H, Floyd and Leonard can beat him. Ive seen more flaws in Robinson than I did in Floyd and given the fact that I actually lived through his era makes me understand him better. I just dont think one can make fair assessments on a fighter when they didnt live in that era. Watching a bunch of black and white films dont do much for me tbh and there arent enough fights available in his prime for study.

    im just not convinced by all the part time railroad workers and opponent with primitive skills he's beaten.



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      #202
      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita

      People make him out to be invincible but I just think H2H, Floyd and Leonard can beat him. Ive seen more flaws in Robinson than I did in Floyd and given the fact that I actually lived through his era makes me understand him better. I just dont think one can make fair assessments on a fighter when they didnt live in that era. Watching a bunch of black and white films dont do much for me tbh and there arent enough fights available in his prime for study.

      im just not convinced by all the part time railroad workers and opponent with primitive skills he's beaten.


      Well everything I said is from video side by side and even if we had his prime he still would fight like I said with the same flaws as I said the whole era looks horrible and would be destroyed by floyd 1st round ever 1 of those guys

      Nobody who watches full matches with good vision can see any of those novices giving people Floyd fought trouble let alone him
      Last edited by Ascended; 01-22-2023, 06:06 PM.

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        #203
        Originally posted by FaustoGeraci

        Another banned jabroni the mods are actually following these clowns now. Thank God. Salute.
        Look up him vs sammy angott george cliff tony freddie valentine andy nonnels and tony ancona Dykes,same obsolete tech and flaws as the older one that fought gene/jake/joey and others looked like a novice still even in prime,crazy idiot

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          #204
          Mayweather is better than Robinson and beats him quite easily actually.

          Come on y'all come up with some better mythical matchups.

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            #205
            Originally posted by HandsofIron
            Mayweather is better than Robinson and beats him quite easily actually.

            Come on y'all come up with some better mythical matchups.
            Floyd even in his amateur state would destroy ray,and amateurs Floyd fought would to

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            • hugh grant
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              #206
              Floyd didn't fight guys in his own division so how can he best SRR? If Floyd had of best brook, bradley, spence, thurman, then I'd say he could possibly best SRR.

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                #207
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Floyd didn't fight guys in his own division so how can he best SRR? If Floyd had of best brook, bradley, spence, thurman, then I'd say he could possibly best SRR.
                You making too much sense for these Floyd boys to comprehend

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                  #208
                  Money = GOAT

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                  • djtmal
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Roadblock



                    As for Floyd I don't think he could beat any of the truly great full-blown WWs because he was not a full-blown WW, put him in the 130/140 range and its a different conversation.
                    Floyd spent a good deal of his prime at 147 and he couldn't fight the best guys in their prime there. Always excuses why the fights couldn't be made. No need to rehash.

                    The minute you take Floyd out of his own era, he is up against fighters who beat the best guys in their eras in their prime, in their weightclass and higher, Floyd didn't do none of that
                    Last edited by djtmal; 10-11-2023, 02:06 PM.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Roadblock



                      put him in the 130/140 range and its a different conversation.
                      based on who at 140 chop chop corley and shopworn Gatti? (Rip)

                      I'm not sure he handles Arguello or Pryor at 140 based on that murderers row

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